Grand Theft Auto European City
Server Discussion => Server Reports => Resolved Reports => Topic started by: K. on May 30, 2016, 06:45:17 pm
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Player Nick: Thunderstorm
Date: 30th May, 2016
Reason for reporting: F1
Evidence:(Screenshots, videos..etc) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaSKkr8OHU8&feature=youtu.be
Extra notes:
To view precisely, pause the video at the following time:
1 second
11th second
18th second
35-39 seconds
52 Second
Pings were completely normal. To prevent high video size, video has been decompressed from 1080p to 720p, but everything's still visible clearly.
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K, The ping was not completely normal.You had 400+ ping and his fps was 40.We don't use hacks like ON
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K, The ping was not completely normal.You had 400+ ping and his fps was 40.We don't use hacks like ON
*A man of words and not of deeds*
My pings were normal, and I don't know anything about your fps, he was completely unhittable. Well, why didn't you kick me if I had 400+ pings? It means they weren't.
In last second, three of my M6's bullet hit him but none even touched him. And if you think ON use hacks, simply record and report us.
If this even doesn't satisfy you, I request management not to lock this topic because my clan mate [ON]KakaroT has some more videos against him and he'll also post them here as soon as possible.
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WTF is this?
My pings were normal,
Srsly?
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Yes. Well, if you don't believe me, wait for Kakarot's video.
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uncut video plz
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We use fraps, as everyone knows fraps take a lot of storage, so I cannot upload a full video of 11GB. This video is enough evidence against you.
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In the starting seconds, i can't see it's F1 or any other thing, this might be high ping or low FPS, on the 35-39th second the time when you shot ThunderStorm, B34TZ just spawned infront of ThunderStorm due to which the bullet hit beatz & he got knocked down,
Your video lack of evidence, I'll wait for sometime if you've any video to post or else I'll deny it. And also show proof that your & his ping was normal.
About 400+ ping, Beatz cannot kick you if your ping is 400, if it spikes above 600 or 550+(which is unhitabble) he can kick you then.
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Can you figure out last 3 seconds of video, where M6 bullets are unhittable to him?
About pings, it's very rare occasion if we check our pings/score in game, unfortunately, I didn't check my pings that time. Although if they have any evidence of my high pings during this combat, they should post it here.
Mind pausing video at 11th and 34th second (Just before BEATZ spawned), I shot him 4-5 times but he didn't get any damage.
At 10th second, he was completely in range of my Spaz Shotgun but he didn't even get damage.
Furthermore, I just talked with [ON]KakaroT, he'll post his view too.
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We don't need views, we need solid evidence.
Your evidence doesn't even make me doubt about ThunderStorm, talking about all the seconds, there was no F1 I can see, about 34th second due to which you maybe thinking, it was due to beatz spawned in front of him, you may know whenever some player spawns it appears twice on our screen & same goes for Beatz(the way he spawned, he like defended ThunderStorm from bullets).
If KakaroT posts any solid video to prove it's F1, then I'll take any decision.
The last player banned for F1 hacks was chernobyl, the evidence was strong, more strong after Tom's video, he was not banned only seeing evidences because his bro/cousin or he was banned twice for the same thing by Howl & he may shared it to chernobyl.
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Of course, it will be a video, not a comment. Stay tuned.
ps Chernobyl's ban has nothing to do here I guess,
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We fought only little, So I just uploaded the suspicious cuts.
https://youtu.be/eAmqtgFTNao
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I think it's enough evidence
Thank you kakarot for supporting me in this concern and for your views. He's an old player that's why a long-term ban is requested.
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About the last one, keep clicking at 0:40, You'll see my body moving which means you missed my head.
Moreover, I was just having fun with shooting from above the cars. And Aaron was with me all the time.
(im not an essay writer to post big bullshits on utter crap. thx bai.)
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hi admin, sorry admin
using logic:
banning somebody for usage of F1 is like giving somebody the death penalty. there cannot be any doubt whether a person is guilty and should be given the death penalty; same here - there can't be any doubt in cases of banning people for F1; here you see two people of high-ping trying to fight each other. I'm pretty sure that if ThunderStorm would be a person wanking off to VC strippers and making sure to record everything 24/7 in order to appease his overlords, he would record this and many other scenes as well. And guess what. They'd look pretty much the same way this video looks. Keep in mind we're in 0.4, not 0.3 - I don't mean the accessibility of .asi but rather sync. Lowping-lowping is pretty much godlike (compared to 0.3) now, but lowping-lagger is a nightmare. Lagger-lagger? No need for elaboration.
Benefit of doubt shouldn't be given to K. here either; this is a serious case, after all.
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High pings is not an issue in this video, not even molotives worked on him, I still request sevrin not to lock topic as we are going to show some more videos against him. Stay tuned, we came here with full preparation.
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About the last one, keep clicking at 0:40, You'll see my body moving which means you missed my head.
Moreover, I was just having fun with shooting from above the cars. And Aaron was with me all the time.
(im not an essay writer to post big bullshits no full crap. thx bai.)
ok so if you watch carefully I shoot at your right side (ony my screen) before aiming at your head and you moved a bit with 350 ping, So bullet should hit you at body but you didn't lose any hp. Anyways I just missed this clip, You can't escape these many shoots.
https://youtu.be/vrsUugVmots
Video will be up when uploading completed (posting before in case someone locks the topic).
Edit: Video is up
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So, this is the third most strong evidence against him, we don't need to give more explanations.
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I have no idea what is that
Edit: I don't remember that moment rlly. All I doubt about is that you may have some animations (when some one punches/runs behind). Your screen may show that you were hitting me. But in my screen different case.
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I have no idea what is that
yes xD
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Quote from Kakarot
lulwatlulwatlulwatlulwat
I don't know why your eyes cannot believe it. There is a reason that we record our gameplay the whole time, so there's no reason that you can use hacks in front of us. Beatz, you can't even defend him now, he was caught red handed.
And for your statement "WE DON'T USE HACKS LIKE ON", I'll say again that you should record us while hacking and report us. I'm leaving this on Sevrin/ any other admin now.
We don't need views, we need solid evidence.
The solid evidence has been uploaded by Kakarot.
*K. Leaves....*
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High pings is not an issue in this video, not even molotives worked on him, I still request sevrin not to lock topic as we are going to show some more videos against him. Stay tuned, we came here with full preparation.
I didn't say high ping but rather lagger; while I know Thunderstorm myself very well I also know his lag that I experience when playing behind an alias on you-know-where. I can't see how can you say that high ping is not an issue in this video - Beatz says you had around 400 ping, pair that with Thunderstorm and it equals this video.
I also don't see any molotovs that should work. When a molotov hits the ground, Thunderstorm jumps around the same time this happens. Again, the molotov didn't land in his screen yet.
RE: Kakarot's video:
I can only think of two things that may have happened:
-packet loss (thunderstorm)
- you mashing C too hard and him not seeing the bullets (do my eyes deceive me or does his health drop by a small amount because of ingram/tec/whatever firing - from the moment he is knocked down to the moment he jumps to the wall)
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I also admit that I also know him for a very long time, he's one of the person who became my friend in the start of my career, but solid evidence is better than the observations, if he can show us his views (recordings), so we can believe what actually happened there, but right now he has nothing to say except "I don't know what is this" which clearly proves that he was using such sort of hacks, right now, all evidences are against him and he cannot disprove them.
Krystianoo, I respect your statement as you're an old player, but packet loss does not occur always, he has no other option but to say that "it was packet loss" in all videos, moreover, 3 videos are enough to prove. We can't upload anymore videos to keep proving his F1. It's way too much.
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- you mashing C too hard and him not seeing the bullets (do my eyes deceive me or does his health drop by a small amount because of ingram/tec/whatever firing - from the moment he is knocked down to the moment he jumps to the wall)
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Well, whatever opinions you give, 3rd video is crystal clear and we don't need to waste more time on this report, Sevrin should give a decision before any conflict start.
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(do my eyes deceive me or does his health drop by a very small amount because of ingram/tec/whatever firing - from the moment he is knocked down to the moment he jumps to the wall)
if they don't deceive me, then my theory is right and Kakarot was mashing C too hard.
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RE: Kakarot's video:
I can only think of two things that may have happened:
-packet loss (thunderstorm)
- you mashing C too hard and him not seeing the bullets (do my eyes deceive me or does his health drop by a small amount because of ingram/tec/whatever firing - from the moment he is knocked down to the moment he jumps to the wall)
pocketloss not my problem.
mashing C? you know this is 0.4, you can shoot like that not 0.3. I wasn't doing that fast switch crouch glitch but standing with shotgun and shooting with crouching. I don't see if he lost hp after he jumped away but he clearly escaped all the 4 shoots of stubby and there is no chance of sprint weapon glitch. And as K said, he got no video to prove what actually happened. As Chernobyl had all the previous recordings but he didn't post them because he was using f1 and reported me after a day for f1 which clip was right after 30 seconds after i killed him in last.
my theory is right and Kakarot was mashing C too hard.
*theory*
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Theories doesn't matter at all, solid evidences matter.
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I don't think you can read properly; if Thunderstorm took damage from a submachinegun/pistol, then it means Kakarot was mashing C too hard and that it wasn't F1, otherwise he wouldn't get hit by the guy firing the SMG/pistol. It's a theory that you can easily prove or disprove by looking at his health bar - whether he took damage from something else, or not. If you can't tell me that he didn't take damage or that he did, then he shouldn't be banned because you aren't certain of your own evidence.
Cheers
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You're not involved in this, so please kindly try not to interfere us with theories. There's no escape for him in 3rd video, cheers.
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Answer my question. Did he take damage from another player that was firing a pistol or an SMG or not? Yes or no? Simple question.
I am interferring because I'm trying to defend my friend; I could've pasted what I wrote here to him and he would post it here, what is the difference? Right, you wouldn't be able to answer with 'stop intereferirgoijrgrng' I am not interferring with bullshit such as 'yes ban him omg no ban him admin he is innocent' but rather with arguments that you have yet failed to answer.
Did he take damage from another player that was firing a pistol or an SMG or not? Yes or no?
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Thanks krystianoo for your views here(I respect your experience).
Coming to topic, I'll be checking/observing all the things & will post a final decision very soon, Have patience & don't tell us how much days to ban him or whatever, its our business.
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So what you'd think? Can't he enable/disable F1 over and over again to prevent getting caught?
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as far as i know f1 cant protect the player from mols, grenades and rpg and the first 2 videos may be caused due to the lag but the third video i am not sure of.
i guess all these videos were captured on the same session, and so maybe he lagged much during that time/session and as i know thunder personally, i think he is clever enough to not to use f1(if he has) in front of kakarot as he knows about the latter well. Due to the f1 getting leaked, there is a tendency for others to look up on lag as hacks. We'll have a discussion based upon these vids, kakarot's vids especially, and make the decision asap like sevrin said
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Thank you Amal for your thoughts here,
I'll add by saying that 2 videos provided by Kakarot are from different sessions, only 1st video (mine) is from today's session. Peace.
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Yes, F1 does not protect against molotovs. I can provide a video if necessary.
Also ask yourself the question whether he actually got hit by that pistol/SMG, because if he did, then it wasn't F1.
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Alright, are you totally blind? Can't you see in video 3 that once he was down, he didn't get a single damage?
Okay, we understand that molotives cannot be prevented by F1, but can't you see other evidences? Anyhow, keep posting your so-called theories here, 3rd video is obvious and it clearly proves that he was using F1, we don't have anymore time to waste here, so I'm leaving this to staff, 3 videos are enough for his ban. All you're trying to say that he doesn't use F1 (Clear motive to save your friend), but ask him to show the video of that occasion where we recorded all this stuff, instead of telling us these fairy tales, we want VIDEOS from THUNDERSTORM, not someone's theories.
If he's not willing to post anything, why you're defending him, just simply ask him to disprove us and then we'll reply.
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After a discussion with my partners in crime 'Amal & GangstaRas', we came to these results:
1- The first video was totally useless, doesn't even makes a doubt its F1(Also K.'s ping was 400+ at that time, confirmed from Beatz & I myself witness, K's having high ping issues these days),
2- In the second video, it was lag, how Thunder got saved from molotov due to jump(even F1 doesn't works on molotovs). It's like a warning to KakaroT that please post the actual videos caught, don't modify them with slow motion or anything like that, you can cut the videos to low the video's size.
3- The 3rd video in which Thunder got knocked down & KakaroT's bullets doesn't hit him was high ping of ThunderStorm & packet loss(Also including the lags).
Denied.
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Was it really a packet loss? Nope it wasn't. All of them finally succeded to defend him. It means that if chernobyl was caught doing F1, he can be banned, but if any Indian player gets caught, he cannot be banned just because of friendship bond. Lag cannot prevent death when you shoot someone straight on body 3 TIMES.
The 3rd video is same as in the case of Chernobyl, but everyone ignored it. I'm really impressed by the standard of justice here.
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Was it really a packet loss? Nope it wasn't. All of them finally succeded to defend him. It means that if chernobyl was caught doing F1, he can be banned, but if any Indian player gets caught, he cannot be banned just because of friendship bond. Lag cannot prevent death when you shoot someone straight on body 3 TIMES.
The 3rd video is same as in the case of Chernobyl, but everyone ignored it. I'm really impressed by the standard of justice here.
Are you mad or what, why'd you unlocked the topic(it'll be disabled for regular players soon). I'm warning you for this shit to did here, if you do any kind of crap again, I'll ban you from forums.
About standard of justice, The videos against chernobyl was valid because, there was no case of high pings or others things, a player under his UID was also caught in past for the same thing twice & chernobyl failed to prove his innocence because he used that shit very wisely but caught. The most important video due to which he got banned was of Tom's in which he was running all the way with low ping & not a single bullet touched him which is not a 'packet loss'.
Don't try to unlock it again or I'll ban you.