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Server Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: karan on March 13, 2017, 06:56:55 am

Title: Still question vcmp why EC was never an official server?
Post by: karan on March 13, 2017, 06:56:55 am
Someone received a permanent ban because he joined with nick Karan, the perfect example of poor staffing, biased filled with retards and you fucktards being a top server of vcmp? XDDDDD If I wanted to ban evade,I ain't a fool to use my real nick to ban evade, posting it here because you bhenchods permanently banned an unknown innocent guy thinking it's me, I don't even like to open this dirty forum filled with ON tards and Wk wankers or EAF kicked out who's a moderator now and how he become moderator? by giving his shitty opinions in others reports, no actions were taken against it, hold referee rank for like forever and still want more example why people shit on this server? xD munh mein lelo bhosdiwalo 
http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=3627.0
Title: Re: Still question vcmp why EC was never an official server?
Post by: CrackM4 on March 13, 2017, 07:33:41 am
He got that position because he's capable and also experienced, and who cares if EC is not in official list?

p.s: you look so stupid using "xD" "xDDDD"
Title: Re: Still question vcmp why EC was never an official server?
Post by: Ryne on March 13, 2017, 11:07:41 am
Calm down karan. Holi hai.
Title: Re: Still question vcmp why EC was never an official server?
Post by: darkMatter on March 13, 2017, 11:52:47 am
' I don't even like to open this dirty forum' > still makes posts in it

op logic
Title: Re: Still question vcmp why EC was never an official server?
Post by: Human. on March 13, 2017, 01:31:35 pm
He( the UID ) never joined the server before, even once with other nick. Then he suddenly join with your nick and his ISP is also same as yours, what a coincidence, right ? Btw, he can freely post unban appeal to get his UID unbanned.
Title: Re: Still question vcmp why EC was never an official server?
Post by: Brian on March 13, 2017, 01:42:44 pm
Butthurt.
Title: Re: Still question vcmp why EC was never an official server?
Post by: karan on March 13, 2017, 03:46:30 pm
He( the UID ) never joined the server before, even once with other nick. Then he suddenly join with your nick and his ISP is also same as yours, what a coincidence, right ? Btw, he can freely post unban appeal to get his UID unbanned.
Yeah because Karan is an Indian nick and my isp is widely used by 80% Indians by now, what's your point? lol
Butthurt.
We all know who's butthurt here xD
He got that position because he's capable and also experienced, and who cares if EC is not in official list?

p.s: you look so stupid using "xD" "xDDDD"
wish if I left you being an idiot when you joined my brother's clan which made you capable here of dropping shit
' I don't even like to open this dirty forum' > still makes posts in it

op logic
I was requested by a staff member to reply since he knew it wasn't me.
Title: Re: Still question vcmp why EC was never an official server?
Post by: AX on March 13, 2017, 06:09:41 pm
Love your abusing lol.
Title: Re: Still question vcmp why EC was never an official server?
Post by: ELBG on March 13, 2017, 07:34:59 pm
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Title: Re: Still question vcmp why EC was never an official server?
Post by: Human. on March 13, 2017, 08:03:33 pm
He( the UID ) never joined the server before, even once with other nick. Then he suddenly join with your nick and his ISP is also same as yours, what a coincidence, right ? Btw, he can freely post unban appeal to get his UID unbanned.
Yeah because Karan is an Indian nick and my isp is widely used by 80% Indians by now, what's your point? lol
As i said, what a coincidence, right ? Same nick, same ISP and he had never joined the server( according the UID - whether he is a new player or old player with different UID :D ). Btw, 'Karan' is not even registered as the account name in server is case-sensitive, but he joined and then leave while admins are around which make it looks more suspicious. So, admins would probably think that it was you trying to evade the ban( well, if it was not you :P ). Anyway, he can easily make an unban appeal to get himself unbanned. Btw, can you tell the 'admin' how can they know that it was not you trying to ban evade with all the possibility i said above ? It could be really helpful if you could atleast be realistic & prove something..

Personally, i dont see the point of making this topic & do you know that no servers will be in official list except it's owned & maintained by vcmp or lu dev/beta tester and if it's already official since 2011 ?
Title: Re: Still question vcmp why EC was never an official server?
Post by: GoRcEE on March 13, 2017, 09:22:20 pm
That abuse BehnChod/MadarChod <33 never be forgettable xD
Title: Re: Still question vcmp why EC was never an official server?
Post by: BeY3K^ on March 13, 2017, 09:46:13 pm
That abuse BehnChod/MadarChod <33 never be forgettable xD
its also related you....
Spammer....
Title: Re: Still question vcmp why EC was never an official server?
Post by: karan on March 13, 2017, 10:50:45 pm
He( the UID ) never joined the server before, even once with other nick. Then he suddenly join with your nick and his ISP is also same as yours, what a coincidence, right ? Btw, he can freely post unban appeal to get his UID unbanned.
Yeah because Karan is an Indian nick and my isp is widely used by 80% Indians by now, what's your point? lol
As i said, what a coincidence, right ? Same nick, same ISP and he had never joined the server( according the UID - whether he is a new player or old player with different UID :D ). Btw, 'Karan' is not even registered as the account name in server is case-sensitive, but he joined and then leave while admins are around which make it looks more suspicious. So, admins would probably think that it was you trying to evade the ban( well, if it was not you :P ). Anyway, he can easily make an unban appeal to get himself unbanned. Btw, can you tell the 'admin' how can they know that it was not you trying to ban evade with all the possibility i said above ? It could be really helpful if you could atleast be realistic & prove something..

Personally, i dont see the point of making this topic & do you know that no servers will be in official list except it's owned & maintained by vcmp or lu dev/beta tester and if it's already official since 2011 ?
There was a time when some ordinary servers used to be listed on official list and it was questioned everywhere why EC was never there, despite of having maximum player count at that time,  now we have the answer.

There's something known as common sense which isn't really common, here's few points -
1.) I've got a separate nick for EC as KAran.exe and KaraN or Karan
2.) I won't gonna embarrass myself by joining a server from where I've got permanent ban for a major rule break and those guys with third party tools or mods are freely to play.
3.) There's thousands of people who's name is Karan and yet mostly are Indians,
4.) My isp is like used by 90% Indians, alias blitz, thunderstorm, beatz or anyone you want you'll find the same isp in one of their ips or subnet.

How come Brian become mod here? what contributions was there of him except trash talk, poking nose in others report and asslicking the managers?

Why the fuck Aaron turned full retard?

And why the fuck this staff is so biased towards those madarchod Russians?

Answer these, Human, I want answers from you, not anyone.
Title: Re: Still question vcmp why EC was never an official server?
Post by: GoRcEE on March 14, 2017, 02:48:08 am
That abuse BehnChod/MadarChod <33 never be forgettable xD
its also related you....
Spammer....
Oh Butthurt here.. Sorry I didn't saw ( ͡? ͜ʖ ͡?)
Title: Re: Still question vcmp why EC was never an official server?
Post by: Human. on March 14, 2017, 09:15:51 am
There were already DM servers in the official list & i personally dont see the point of being official, except having stickied topic in vcmp forum and being in official list( which i believe 80% - 90% of normal players dont even care to see ). I've personally never hoped to be one as it will just give us more works and i dont want EC to be in the topics such as 'why EC is official', 'the criteria of official server', 'why my server is not official' and they start comparing servers in a questionable and one-sided way with wrong facts.


1, 3, 4: What you said is like we should ignore banned players/nicks joining the server just because his name is widely used in the country ? If we use your logic, most of the ban evaders with new UID will probably get away just by saying 'There are alot of people using my nick & my ISP is 80% used in the country, it was not me & it was a new player'. I guess you didnt take what i said or you are not being realistic due to your anger, he used same nick, same ISP, a very new UID & he joined then leave while admin is in server..all those are the criteria of ban evaders. So, it's a high possibility that it was you trying to ban evade or mistakenly joined the server using your new UID. It is also not a big issue, he can simply PM admin or post unban appeal to get himself unbanned in no time.

2. You got perma-banned after 6 warns & 6 bans( nice numbers :D ), while for those with 3rd party tools that gives advantages are just waiting for a ban, but as admins cant take action without evidence or a clear rules..we might have to open a discussion about it first and without proof, we cant do anything yet. There are few players that are being watched by admins, admins are just collecting evidences to ban them & it is not as easy as pointing at people's mistake and complaining. There are alot of glitch in 0.4 and the problem with FPS, ping..etc, so it's not easy to get a clear evidence. The admins might even end up banning wrong player, that's why it takes time to handle reports related to 3rd party tools and that's one of the reason we have unban appeal board. The admins have their own life too, works, studies, stress. They cant simply spend all the hours in the server catching rule breakers and facing insults & complaints, so it will take more time to solve it. I believe you are mature enough to understand it..

Quote from: karan
How come Brian become mod here? what contributions was there of him except trash talk, poking nose in others report and asslicking the managers?
Brian showed his dedication and effort in reporting and EC, he got promoted to mod( which is testing admin ) after 4 pages of discussion between admins and managers. If anyone saw him abusing his power, they may report him at 'Admin Reports'.

Quote from: karan
Why the fuck Aaron turned full retard?
And why the fuck this staff is so biased towards those madarchod Russians?
I dont get what you meant with it..
Title: Re: Still question vcmp why EC was never an official server?
Post by: karan on March 14, 2017, 01:50:48 pm
About the 1,3,4 - There's many players ban evading and still playing, for security purpose I am not going to reveal names but it's easy as fuck to ban evade, Secondly I didn't made this topic because of my ban but because of falsely accused for some embarrassing moment which I never done.

About the Brian so, it was all biased staff that voted for him? I don't think or wonder any mature guy will ever gonna put his money on that retard, see current going topics, mostly are against him, they'll just get denied and he'll get rid of them because biased staff

About the last post so, there was a report of Blitz, which was wrong, there wasn't anything, Admins denied it for like 2 times then what was the reason of banning him for suspicious reasons?
Title: Re: Still question vcmp why EC was never an official server?
Post by: Human. on March 14, 2017, 02:14:47 pm
Quote from: karan
About the 1,3,4 - There's many players ban evading and still playing, for security purpose I am not going to reveal names but it's easy as fuck to ban evade
It's out of our control, it's about VCMP security & all VCMP servers are facing the same thing. The difference are the players themself, whether they could use a proper way to solve the problems or acting like a immature kid and throw insults/ban evade which just make things worst. The only solution to the problem of ban evade is just by banning them again( & again ) for breaking the rules, that's what we do.

Quote from: karan
Secondly I didn't made this topic because of my ban but because of falsely accused for some embarrassing moment which I never done
Your topic name and its content doesnt look like you are trying to clear the situation.

About Brian, there are always negative and positive views in every discussion. It ended up with a decision that EC might need him & the staff decided to give him a chance as moderation to see how it will go. About the reports against him, i saw all of them are invalid..do you expect us to remove him just because he has alot of invalid reports against him ? If that's how you think, you just proved that you dont care about evidence and your decision is biased.

Quote from: karan
About the last post so, there was a report of Blitz, which was wrong, there wasn't anything, Admins denied it for like 2 times then what was the reason of banning him for suspicious reasons?
I dont get what you meant.


i don't think this topic will come to an end or conclusion. I'll lock this topic to avoid it from turning into an unnecessary endless drama, you may PM me if you have any more question or difficulties. So, from this topic:
1. You are trying to clear that it was not you trying to ban evade.
- We have no way to confirm it as all the possibility are against you. it might not be you, but we have to take a solid action because the evidences are against you. He may post unban appeal or PM admin to get himself unbanned.

2. The players that use 3rd party tool which are not banned yet.
- The admins need evidence to ban players, the admins will only take action if they get a clear proof of the player using 3rd party tools that give unfair advantage( his speed..etc ). So, the admin can not take any action toward them until someone can provide a good evidence.

3. Late response in report or wrong ban:-
Quote from: Human.
while for those with 3rd party tools that gives advantages are just waiting for a ban, but as admins cant take action without evidence or a clear rules..we might have to open a discussion about it first and without proof, we cant do anything yet. There are few players that are being watched by admins, admins are just collecting evidences to ban them & it is not as easy as pointing at people's mistake and complaining. There are alot of glitch in 0.4 and the problem with FPS, ping..etc, so it's not easy to get a clear evidence. The admins might even end up banning wrong player, that's why it takes time to handle reports related to 3rd party tools and that's one of the reason we have unban appeal board

4. About not being official:
Quote from: Human.
no servers will be in official list except it's owned & maintained by vcmp or lu dev/beta tester and if it's already official since 2011
Quote from: Human.
Quote from: karan
There was a time when some ordinary servers used to be listed on official list and it was questioned everywhere why EC was never there, despite of having maximum player count at that time
There were already DM servers in the official list & i personally dont see the point of being official, except having stickied topic in vcmp forum and being in official list( which i believe 80% - 90% of normal players dont even care to see ). I've personally never hoped to be one as it will just give us more works and i dont want EC to be in the topics such as 'why EC is official', 'the criteria of official server', 'why my server is not official' and they start comparing servers in a questionable and one-sided way with wrong facts
- and we might not be good enough to be in the official list.

5. Power abuse of admin
- Any abuse of admin power can be reported at 'Report Admin' board. We will only take action if the report is valid. We do care about evidence to avoid biased decision, so no matter how many reports are there against the admin, if the report is invalid..we cant take any action.