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Server Discussion => Server Reports => Admin Reports => Topic started by: krystianoo on June 27, 2016, 09:24:12 pm
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Admin Name:
Sevrin Jokah
Date: Today/Yesterday
Reason for report: de facto impersonating / no knowledge of rules
Evidence:(Screenshots, videos..etc) http://ec.vcmp.co.uk/index.php?topic=625
The ORIGINAL report video was solved wrongfully, as it was not a rule break. (said so by another admin)
We are not discussing the second video here so don't bring it up.
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Sevrin wasn't the one who banned him.
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/baninfo showed otherwise, and I rather believe the database :p
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/baninfo showed otherwise, and I rather believe the database :p
The thing is I was there when the ban happend and I can tell you for a fact that it wasn't Sevrin who banned him. His nickname was used tho'.
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http://ec.vcmp.co.uk/index.php?topic=142.0
Look at this one too
Having a conversation with a player is not spamming.
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/baninfo showed otherwise, and I rather believe the database :p
The thing is I was there when the ban happend and I can tell you for a fact that it wasn't Sevrin who banned him. His nickname was used tho'.
What does 'his nickname was used' mean?
You can ask an admin to check honey's baninfo and I believe/know that it will return that Sevrin banned him.
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/baninfo showed otherwise, and I rather believe the database :p
The thing is I was there when the ban happend and I can tell you for a fact that it wasn't Sevrin who banned him. His nickname was used tho'.
What does 'his nickname was used' mean?
You can ask an admin to check honey's baninfo and I believe/know that it will return that Sevrin banned him.
What I mean is a different admin banned honey on IRC using Sevrin's name due to the fact that the admin in question didn't want to have a bs shitstorm with honey.
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bullshit
why would any staff member use his colleagues nick to do something as important as ban?
prove it was someone else than sevrin - baninfo is on my side.
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bullshit
sigh, well here are the logs;
03[05:53] * Jokah is now known as Sevrin
[05:53] <+ECBot1> 03>> =RK=BliTz killed [TF]Denny62 ( Silenced Ingram ) ( Left leg )
03[05:53] * Sevrin is now known as Jokah
[05:53] <+ECBot1> 02---> [0] [TF]Denny62: 01 /nogoto on
[05:53] <+ECBot1> 03>> [VU_T]Siezer killed [DS]RizwaN ( Pump-Action Shotgun ) ( Right leg )
[05:53] <+ECBot1> 10>> Auto-kick:[ desi ] Reason:[ Unstable FPS ]
[05:53] <+ECBot1> 04[4] desi has left the server.( kicked )
[05:54] <+ECBot1> 03>> [VU_T]Siezer killed [DS]RizwaN ( M60 ) ( Body )
[05:54] <+ECBot1> 03>> [TF]Denny62 killed =RK=BliTz ( M4 ) ( Head )
[05:54] <+ECBot1> 03>> [VU_T]Siezer killed [DS]RizwaN ( Pump-Action Shotgun ) ( Body )
[05:54] <+ECBot1> 03>> [TF]Denny62 killed =RK=BliTz ( M4 ) ( Head )
[05:54] <+ECBot1> 03>> [VU_T]Siezer killed [DS]RizwaN ( M60 ) ( Torso )
[05:54] <+ECBot1> 03>> =RK=BliTz killed [TF]Denny62 ( Pump-Action Shotgun ) ( Body )
03[05:55] * Jokah is now known as Sevrin
[05:55] <+ECBot1> 03>> =RK=BliTz killed [TF]Denny62 ( Silenced Ingram ) ( Right leg )
[05:55] <+ECBot1> 03>> [VU_T]Siezer killed [DS]RizwaN ( M60 ) ( Body )
[05:55] <+ECBot1> 10>> [VU_T]Siezer is on spree of 5 kills, Reward: $400
03[05:55] * Sevrin is now known as Guest99874
[05:55] <+ECBot1> 03>> [VU_T]Siezer killed [DS]RizwaN ( Chainsaw ) ( Body )
03[05:55] * Guest99874 is now known as Jokah
[05:57]<Sevrin> !ban ff6c6e2dc0fc9b8cccfbdd13794311abec9cfff3 7d rocket glitching
[05:57]<ECBot1> [BANS] Admin:[ Sevrin ] Banned UID of:[ musiclover ] reason:[ rocket glitching ] duration:[ 7 days ]
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maybe i'm high, but:
03[05:55] * Sevrin is now known as Guest99874
03[05:55] * Guest99874 is now known as Jokah
[05:57]<Sevrin> !ban ff6c6e2dc0fc9b8cccfbdd13794311abec9cfff3 7d rocket glitching
these logs don't prove jack except prove my theory that it was sevrin further
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[05:56] <Jokah> * You are now known as Sevrin
04[05:57] <[ULK]SB> ?\_( ͡? ͜ʖ ͡?)_/?
[05:57] <Jokah> <Sevrin> !ban ff6c6e2dc0fc9b8cccfbdd13794311abec9cfff3 7d rocket glitching
[05:57] <Jokah> <ECBot1> [BANS] Admin:[ Sevrin ] Banned UID of:[ musiclover ] reason:[ rocket glitching ] duration:[ 7 days ]
[05:57] <Jokah> xddd
[05:57] <Jokah> banned
04[05:57] <[ULK]SB> rip
[05:57] <Jokah> just post in your topic banned
[05:57] <Jokah> just do it
04[05:57] <[ULK]SB> lol
[05:57] <Jokah> i'll lock it and prefix it
[05:57] <Jokah> do et
[05:57] <Jokah> or honey will annoy me alot :v
04[05:57] <[ULK]SB> lmao
04[05:57] <[ULK]SB> inb4 i get trouble with it
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i'm still not convinced, but if it was Jokah that did it, then this report is against him
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WTF, I didnt banned at the first spot before the one who didnt replied & banned honey, lol, everyone knows I use S3vrin because when i use sevrin on irc, it beeps when i play ingame & ehy the hell i will do it, do you really think tht im tht fool?
The reason why i deleted the previous post was because, I didnt banned him at that time & left the report on amal & others to handle because i was too tired due to fast & some shitwork to do.
Really, im not that guy, even Sevrin is registered but it can be used for 15 seconds before identification. Even I woke up after 2:30 pm pk time. Lol.
Edit: will reply after sometime if needed(iftaar time here).
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I doubt Sevrin had the time as well to ban some guy at 5am. Sleep is more important for him.
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This is completely a shameful and immature act whoever did it. If you had a valid reason to ban Honey, why would you use Sevrin's nick? Ridiculous.
However, i haven't seen the video yet so i'll take a look and post my personal opinion on this.
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HONEY_SINGH was banned by Sevrin, right?
Then what is this shit, see, I use S3vrin nick & my logged in nick is damn SameerM not Sevrin, I used Sevrin but in past not anymore.
http://imgur.com/a/onCX5
Now, without seeing the logs, I talked with Sora & he said it was Jokah who banned Honey using my nick because he doesn't a shitstorm with Honey like he do with me & his fellow NYB clan members(who gives a flying fuck to them huh?),
Secondly, the report against honey was damn totally valid, if its really a doubt one, watch the new one posted by StoneCold, if you still can't see it then don't mind, please contact any eye specialist.
Thirdly, dunno nothing to do with this but I tolerated this much, those shitstorms of admin reports against me, damn & now, all of them denied, I'll talk to Aaron don't let the topic of admin report out before any manager approves it. I'm tired already & this is making me tired more, really.
Still, really? Jokah used my nickname, ok if he did that for the reason he mentioned above, ok, I'm the one who banned him, because I can see FS with rocket in it myself even I haven't banned such crap right?
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Your entire post is talking how you didn't ban him but it was Jokah - if you are going to contribute that much to this post, then I recommend you log out of the forums, right now. I said it a few posts ago that if it was Jokah, then this report is against Jokah.
You should contact a brain specialist (eye for an eye) - the video that StoneCold posted is more than 17 days old - evidence?
Go to webstats and write Darkness187 - he appears in this video however webstats show that he joined 17 days ago.
See also [TNCr]Gabbar^ - around 15 days ago.
Keep in mind that this report also came out before the second video was posted and before it was known that "Jokah" used your nickname and solved the report unfairly.
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Your entire post is talking how you didn't ban him but it was Jokah - if you are going to contribute that much to this post, then I recommend you log out of the forums, right now. I said it a few posts ago that if it was Jokah, then this report is against Jokah.
You should contact a brain specialist (eye for an eye) - the video that StoneCold posted is more than 17 days old - evidence?
Go to webstats and write Darkness187 - he appears in this video however webstats show that he joined 17 days ago.
See also [TNCr]Gabbar^ - around 15 days ago.
Keep in mind that this report also came out before the second video was posted and before it was known that "Jokah" used your nickname and solved the report unfairly.
If its against Jokah then why the hell I can see my nick in the report & the format??
And, does that matter that this video is 17 days ago? The report is valid, the reporter can report whenever he want to ok? & it's damn our matter to take care of the report not you, so stay the hell out of the report, let admins decide it, & if its a wrong decision, then you can make the damn admin report.
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I don't give a flying fuck what does the reporter decide to do with the report or what decision is made as long as it's legit - the only thing I did was inform you how old this report is, and you're not the one to educate me about what can and can't I do as a community member of this server - I am perfectly aware of those things. (unlike you it appears) Never called for any particular verdict to be made on honey's report - and suddenly your entire reply becomes invalid.
Changed the topic name and format
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The ORIGINAL report video was solved wrongfully, as it was not a rule break. (said so by another admin)
We are not discussing the second video here so don't bring it up.
The admin in question said it wasn't rocket glitching, HOWEVER that's not the reason why he was reported for in the first place.
He was reported for fast switching with it and that's what he should be banned for.
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But the decision was overriden and he was unbanned.
Clearly something must've went wrong?
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But the decision was overriden and he was unbanned.
And now it's open again and being discussed among head admins and managers alike.
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(http://i66.tinypic.com/2v9oeqg.png)
Jokah said he not banned me
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Honey, I was lying :v
Alright, I banned him.
I was away all this time, because I was sleeping. I banned him, because I thought fast switching with rpg is rocket glitch, which is a big misconception. Then, I took Sevrin's name to avoid the shitstorm that was going to come on me when I join servers, Which is completely annoying and it would ruin VCMP with me. My ignoring ability is weak. So I saw Sevrin, he already had this shitstorm, I thought he wouldn't have any problem with this. But shit went real bad. And the report went wrong so it got him in trouble. I'd like to say sorry to him for getting him in to all this. Lets see if he was okay with this, if not I will accept the punishment.
About knowledge of the rules, this is my first report on 'knowledge' and I misunderstood only 1 rule, many admins have misconceptions on them. But I was sure that fast switching with rpg is rg. Which turned out to be wrong. These type of misconceptions happen in our staff, I don't think it is a big deal.
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But the decision was overriden and he was unbanned.
And now it's open again and being discussed among head admins and managers alike.
And if I'm right then the admin who solved the report should be punished / forced to apologise, yes?
Yes or no?
There is no shitstorm when Sevrin joins other servers.
He is 'disliked' (if you like) by other reasons - not (only) solving reports the wrong way.
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But the decision was overriden and he was unbanned.
And now it's open again and being discussed among head admins and managers alike.
And if I'm right then the admin who solved the report should be punished / forced to apologise, yes?
Yes or no?
Technically speaking, he did the right thing in banning honey as he was fast switching. However the ban reason he stated was invalid (it's not rocket glitching) so this is a misunderstanding on his part.
However he apologized for his actions (see above post) regarding the incident and now everything is pretty much clear now.
It's up to managers to decide whether he should be punished or not.
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Honey, I was lying :v
Alright, I banned him.
I was away all this time, because I was sleeping. I banned him, because I thought fast switching with rpg is rocket glitch, which is a big misconception. Then, I took Sevrin's name to avoid the shitstorm that was going to come on me when I join servers, Which is completely annoying and it would ruin VCMP with me. My ignoring ability is weak. So I saw Sevrin, he already had this shitstorm, I thought he wouldn't have any problem with this. But shit went real bad. And the report went wrong so it got him in trouble. I'd like to say sorry to him for getting him in to all this. Lets see if he was okay with this, if not I will accept the punishment.
About knowledge of the rules, this is my first report on 'knowledge' and I misunderstood only 1 rule, many admins have misconceptions on them. But I was sure that fast switching with rpg is rg. Which turned out to be wrong. These type of misconceptions happen in our staff, I don't think it is a big deal.
lol this is vu clan member
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But the decision was overriden and he was unbanned.
And now it's open again and being discussed among head admins and managers alike.
And if I'm right then the admin who solved the report should be punished / forced to apologise, yes?
Yes or no?
Technically speaking, he did the right thing in banning honey as he was fast switching. However the ban reason he stated was invalid (it's not rocket glitching) so this is a misunderstanding on his part.
However he apologized for his actions (see above post) regarding the incident and now everything is pretty much clear now.
It's up to managers to decide whether he should be punished or not.
Honey wasn't unbanned because the ban reason Jokah stated was invalid but because the ban was invalid, otherwise the managers and head admins wouldn't discuss about it but rather ban him..
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Why putting here personal stuffs?
Just stick with the report which you made & talk on that report not any clan or liked or disliked, anything.
Being on report, no misconception, its just understandings, we discussed many times in private, the thing is "using rocket in close range of 24 meters is not allowed" & "Fast switching with rocket is also not allowed". For the reason honey was reported by brian was "FS with rocket" & then Stonecold posted another video, the video is 17 days ago, if yes, then what does matter that if its 17 days ago or of today, rule breaking is rule breaking. Other admins will decide that report because I'm tired of shit stuff tbh, leaving it on Howl/Amal or GangstaRas. Amal was just having a doubt on the evidence but after stone's evidence, I can see, his doubt will be cleared.
Edit: Managers are not discussing it or anyone, because Aaron is the only one active manager & he's not there atm. It's just senior staff who will discuss but what to discuss? Everything is clear on both videos. If any admin have doubts or really don't know what is that, others are there & can handle it. Why bouncing it?
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Read again.
i guess guys dont know what rg is, please watch the video again.
Ban reason was invalid and he probably didn't read the reason as to why I reported him for.
This is exactly the same situation as here: http://ec.vcmp.co.uk/index.php?topic=447.0
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1. I never put any personal stuff here nor did anybody else. Stop making things up. I only told Jokah why you are getting so hammered down on when joining servers. (as he mentioned it first)
2. Why would Honey Singh be unbanned if only the ban reason that Jokah specified was wrong? Doesn't make sense - all you have to do is change 'rocket glitch' to 'fast switch with rocket' then. The report was denied because Amal told you to provide any other evidence - and until another admin overrides that decision, I am right. And if Honey_Singh is innocent of the charges you presented to him (which he currently is) in the first video, then this report is right. We are not talking about the second video so stop mentioning it.
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And I was right - Honey is innocent to the first video and the second one that was posted by the arrogant fuck he was warned for, which makes my report valid.
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that was a bad move jokah, im really disappointed
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that was a bad move jokah, im really disappointed
Well, it was really a bad move but I forgive him on this act, he won't do that shit anymore.
Well, the report is finalized by Amal, the decisions any admin of our staff team takes, it's about their way of handling report, warning/banning or permanent banning. No one will oppose except in cases, its unfair or wrong. The thing what normal players think is about the judgement, It's about the admin's nature.
Now, tell me why the hell my name is still being used in the topic title?
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Now, tell me why the hell my name is still being used in the topic title?
Lack of editing skills ?\_( ͡? ͜ʖ ͡?)_/?
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cry ulk baby lost in report :)) jajajjjajajajaja
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demanding action in this report here
thx to brian for inspirtaion
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Disappointed? lol... ?\_( ͡? ͜ʖ ͡?)_/?
Even if Sevrin was online, he would ban him. So I thought why not taking his nick? Because I knew Honey would create a shitstorm ingame and ruin my game play. And he wouldn't annoy Sevrin anymore because he's already done and knows how to ignore.
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i request everyone to stop posting here since everything is clarified and wait for a few hours.for aaron to come
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i request everyone to stop posting here since everything is clarified and wait for a few hours.for aaron to come
^^^ & about admin's discussion, it can be done in private, aaron will come at morning I guess.
Locked for now.
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It's really disspointing for what jokah did, and why you changed your nick to servin you almost implicated sevrin because of that, maybe your scared banning honey or w/e. Sad to say i have to demote you from admin to mod, not to butthurt you jokah but honestly speaking you aren't ready for that position yet it just happen that maiyun promoted you without any discussion from us, but you can still improve, and regarding deleting krysitanoo's post is another dissapointment staff should not act that kind of things, to end this as what i've said i'll be demoting jokah from admin position to mod. I hope this will not happen again.