Grand Theft Auto European City
Server Discussion => Ban Appeals => Topic started by: krystianoo on May 22, 2017, 09:29:45 pm
-
In-Game nick: [ss]kry1488
Country: pakistan
Ban ID: 2137
Date you were banned: today
Suspected reason: i dont suspect the reason i know the reason
Admin that banned you: sryne
Why should we unban you ?:
first of all i'd like to ask you niggers to not lock this topic and deny without any discussion
second of all here is the wall glitching rule you cucks
Wall-glitching
It is strictly prohibited in this server. Wall-glitching is an act on which you 'purposely' use the game's bug or any other unfair way to shoot through a wall to hit another player. This includes bugged or non-solid places/walls that are accessible by foot but covered by texture.
now if you have at least 1% English reading comprehension you can see that the rule states
any other unfair way to shoot through a wall
I don't see myself shooting through a wall in any (http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=4429.0) of the reports (http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=4428.0), do you?
@Krys1488: We consider it wall glitch, no matter you shoot straight to walls using Rocket to damage next person via explosion.
now this is the best shit
so you openly admit to not following the rule topic? (http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=3.0)
players can get banned just because you consider something so?
eighth of all
here (http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=4032.msg22359#msg22359) you can see a player being unbanned for the same offense
and another topic (http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=3355.msg18464#msg18464) which I made myself
you can't ban me for wall glitch when the rules topic clearly states it isn't
Extra note: fuck yall
-
Most apropiate title ever.
-
Most apropiate title ever.
thanks
-
Grenade and rockets are different thing, you were using rockets at that time as an advantage in your point as their running blind inside that building nor they can't retaliate you at the same time. We made it clear that molotovs/grenades can be considered legal depending on the situation, but in this case it's different.
Radon: Don't post if you're not involved in this appeal.
-
Grenade and rockets are different thing, you were using rockets at that time as an advantage in your point as their running blind inside that building nor they can't retaliate you at the same time. We made it clear that molotovs/grenades can be considered legal depending on the situation, but in this case it's different.
Radon: Don't post if you're not involved in this appeal.
http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=3355.msg18464#msg18464
How come Eddy was unbanned, then? I have done the same.
I also don't see a rule regarding this at all, and what I have done does NOT fit the definition of wall=glitch. And if it does, then explain how; if I'm not shooting through a wall.
-
Here is even a more recent post from another administrator: http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=3959.msg21930#msg21930
-
Don't tell me you aren't aware of the rules? Despite you play in ec maybe you're fully aware on what's happening, Is this your first offence regarding this report? And we given a brief about this as for that time there was a confusion between staffs whether it is accepted or not.
Anyways i'm not the one who will decide for the conclusion since Ryne handled this, he has the authority to give you the final decision, I just made some clarifications.
-
I am aware of rules that EXIST and are VISIBLE to the general public. There is no mention of such an offense in the Server Rules topic which I follow.
Tell me, has this been stated in the rules topic? Yes or no?
If this is disallowed, then why was Eddy (http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=3355.msg18464#msg18464) unbanned? This only leads me to think even more that this is allowed.
How is anyone supposed to know that this is disallowed despite there being no mention of this in the rules topic?
Why is Azulej saying that this is allowed in here? (http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=3959.msg21930#msg21930)
But again, I would like a response to this:
If this is disallowed, then why was Eddy (http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=3355.msg18464#msg18464) unbanned? This only leads me to think even more that this is allowed.
-
Country: pakistan
you're from 'karachi pakistan" i think maybe?
-
Country: pakistan
you're from 'karachi pakistan" i think maybe?
dont shame finland with your country tag
-
First about the rules, it has been outdated and has been forgotten to update which is a flaw to misunderstanding, and as I said earlier there were a confusion between the staffs as they ask if it was allowed or not which after a brief explanation we have decided to disallow it, As the word "through" it changes our perspective at this point, and about eddy's case it was in that point we weren't aware until it was decided to make it fall under wall glitch category rule that taken effect after eddy's unban.
Ryne will do the rest on what to do about this case.
-
Country: pakistan
you're from 'karachi pakistan" i think maybe?
dont shame finland with your country tag
i don't see any finland tag maybe it's just bug forum i will tell developers to fix this forum bugs. but since "human" is inactive
-
First about the rules, it has been outdated and has been forgotten to update which is a flaw to misunderstanding, and as I said earlier there were a confusion between the staffs as they ask if it was allowed or not which after a brief explanation we have decided to disallow it, As the word "through" it changes our perspective at this point, and about eddy's case it was in that point we weren't aware until it was decided to make it fall under wall glitch category rule that taken effect after eddy's unban.
Ryne will do the rest on what to do about this case.
So what you are saying is that NOBODY except for staff members knew about this rule and even then somehow reports are accepted for non-existent rules?
(non-existent for us, non-staff members)
What you are doing is equal to disallowing greenless in private and not telling the general public about it but still banning players for it.
So answer my (hopefully) last question:
Could me, or Ferrari (or ANY player) know about this when:
- nobody was punished for this before us
- Eddy was unbanned
- the public (we, the players) were not informed about this in for example the Server Rules thread?
-
Could me, or Ferrari (or ANY player) know about this when:
- nobody was punished for this before us
- Eddy was unbanned
- the public (we, the players) were not informed about this in for example the Server Rules thread?
Plenty of people have been punished for it, it's common sense not to glitch explosions through walls.
Quit trying to bend the rules and push the boundaries of what is and is not allowed, such players are not welcome in this server.
-
Quit trying to bend the rules and push the boundaries of what is and is not allowed, such players are not welcome in this server.
That's funny, because last time I remember you were the one lying in a CQ RPG report and after getting caught attempting to get exonerated because you were shooting from the first floor and the distance didn't matter. ::)
Plenty of people have been punished for it, it's common sense not to glitch explosions through walls.
Source of 'plenty'?
-
Could me, or Ferrari (or ANY player) know about this when:
- nobody was punished for this before us
Ferrari was punished for this before http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=3409.msg18632#msg18632
Keep ignoring the reality if you wish.
-
Ferrari was banned before for doing such this thing, If you see you have different ban time
-
I don't play on the server hence I don't have the entire report section in my head; only things I have come upon myself. And I'm pretty sure that goes for every player too.
Still, http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=3355.msg18464#msg18464. And Ferrari's report is just 2 days later.
And so, the question remains: why am I getting punished for a non-existent rule? A rule that exists only in staff's private section, but not in public?
-
http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=4283.msg23779#msg23779
http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=4200.msg23321#msg23321
http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=3637.msg19975#msg19975
http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=3723.msg20566#msg20566
More can be found if you look deeper in the reports section.
-
http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=4283.msg23779#msg23779
http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=4200.msg23321#msg23321
http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=3637.msg19975#msg19975
http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=3723.msg20566#msg20566
More can be found if you look deeper in the reports section.
Most of them were reported by you, it basically means that you're the one who started to bend the rules according to your needs, isn't it? I too got punished for those rules which aren't even mentioned in server rules topic, i posted a thread because of it, i didn't got any sort of justice but they modified the server rules topic, if Ferrari32 was banned 2 days ago or anyone who got reported and had a ban before, it was server staff responsibility to post an update for a rule that come to existence by your reports, krystian is innocent.
-
Unbanned and rules will be updated accordingly to avoid issues.