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Recent wave of speed gear reports
« on: March 13, 2017, 11:42:03 pm »
Do you even know what speed gear is? lol, you can't even maintain 20 FPS ingame.
Also the only close range RPG there was was where you intentionally ran backwards to get within script's range when I was aiming so that you could make some forged report.
Not to mention that your shitty lag is 2 seconds behind me.

Since an admin has admitted himself that despite being maybe even slightly faster than normal in a video, the video can not be accepted as valid evidence because of the recorder's PC conditions.

Which brings us to the question.. how can we tell that the speed gear reports are valid? There are so many things that could make a player's speed different in your screen, such as your own FPS / ping, the 'suspect's' FPS and ping, maybe even server lag - so how do we differ from valid to non valid reports?

Going straight to the point, since this is obviously the most popular actual-DM server, there needs to be a foolproof method of speed detection. As evidenced in a previous topic made by vito, using GetTicks is not foolproof, and rather really prone to fail.

Speed gear is something that is unfortunately, used often in today's VCMP scene - or perhaps, we're just paranoid, and think that X uses it but in reality it's an issue of the 0.4 synchronization? Who knows.

So treat this topic as a suggestion, or perhaps a discussion - what could the script do to detect a higher-than-usual speed of a player? Unfortunately, replies that involve VCMP devs implementing X or doing Y won't help.
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Re: Recent wave of speed gear reports
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2017, 11:51:22 pm »
So treat this topic as a suggestion, or perhaps a discussion - what could the script do to detect a higher-than-usual speed of a player? Unfortunately, replies that involve VCMP devs implementing X or doing Y won't help.
Human is currently trying to work on such system however it will never be the thing that should be 100% relied on.
It will still always be video proof.
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Re: Recent wave of speed gear reports
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2017, 12:27:46 am »
But he didn't Realize it. You know Brain always use this.
Proved video always show you.
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Re: Recent wave of speed gear reports
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2017, 12:28:43 am »
But he didn't Realize it. You know Brain always use this.
Proved video always show you.
Your inability to learn the English language amazes me.
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Re: Recent wave of speed gear reports
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2017, 12:39:42 am »
Really thanks for your Advice but take this my words Its very important for you and others.
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Re: Recent wave of speed gear reports
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2017, 12:44:50 am »
But he didn't Realize it. You know Brain always use this.
Proved video always show you.
Your inability to learn the English language amazes me.
Don't try to fucking bring anyone's point down by commenting how bad his English is, it's still clear and convincing.

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Re: Recent wave of speed gear reports
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2017, 12:45:36 am »
But he didn't Realize it. You know Brain always use this.
Proved video always show you.
Your inability to learn the English language amazes me.
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Re: Recent wave of speed gear reports
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2017, 12:47:33 am »
But he didn't Realize it. You know Brain always use this.
Proved video always show you.
Your inability to learn the English language amazes me.
Don't try to fucking bring anyone's point down by commenting how bad his English is, it's still clear and convincing.
You accusing me of speed gear now too? Rofl, you couldn't even play this game without F1 hacks.
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Re: Recent wave of speed gear reports
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2017, 12:49:50 am »
So treat this topic as a suggestion, or perhaps a discussion - what could the script do to detect a higher-than-usual speed of a player?
It's not a problem to detect low fps in clientside since each frame there is under control. Actually there is alot of tricks can be taken to detect some cheats via scripts. But talking about unhittable lags, in my option - I personally not care about origin of it. Speed hacks/edited animations/poor PC/shitty internet service provider/software to change lags and so on. Better choice for me is to judge by factual gameplay. However most of servers is not ready do to that and never will be. They actually wants to play in 'government', 'cops' staff who is hunting on the 'crime' cheaters and leaving 'innocent' laggots to spoil gameplay. VC-MP's standars is too far from normal gameplay, and playing many years here I think you already know it. So you always will enjoy this shit regardless of any 'magical scripts' to detect cheaters.

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Re: Recent wave of speed gear reports
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2017, 12:50:05 am »
More drama  ^_^ keep on going

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Re: Recent wave of speed gear reports
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2017, 12:53:47 am »
But he didn't Realize it. You know Brain always use this.
Proved video always show you.
Your inability to learn the English language amazes me.
Don't try to fucking bring anyone's point down by commenting how bad his English is, it's still clear and convincing.
You accusing me of speed gear now too? Rofl, you couldn't even play this game without F1 hacks.
Really Am never use Any hack in this server or other server
lol. XD
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Re: Recent wave of speed gear reports
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2017, 01:18:06 am »
But he didn't Realize it. You know Brain always use this.
Proved video always show you.
Your inability to learn the English language amazes me.
Don't try to fucking bring anyone's point down by commenting how bad his English is, it's still clear and convincing.
You accusing me of speed gear now too? Rofl, you couldn't even play this game without F1 hacks.
Really Am never use Any hack in this server or other server
lol. XD
Became retarded ? Read what he said

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Re: Recent wave of speed gear reports
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2017, 01:24:36 am »
You accusing me of speed gear now too? Rofl, you couldn't even play this game without F1 hacks.
provide logs when and where i used f1?

Became retarded ? Read what he said
You don't have to support him just because you're a BLK like him

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Re: Recent wave of speed gear reports
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2017, 01:27:36 am »
You accusing me of speed gear now too? Rofl, you couldn't even play this game without F1 hacks.
provide logs when and where i used f1?

Became retarded ? Read what he said
You don't have to support him just because you're a BLK like him
Ok where is your team of asslickers? You were begging in the group?

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Re: Recent wave of speed gear reports
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2017, 02:05:02 am »
Ok where is your team of asslickers? You were begging in the group?
preparing memes at you  8)