Grand Theft Auto European City
Server Discussion => Server Reports => Resolved Reports => Topic started by: Azal on January 30, 2020, 01:09:02 pm
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Player Nick:[MD]LumberJack
Date:18/12/19
Reason for reporting: lag tools, artifical lag whenever he needs it and when he does not he is hittable
Evidence:(Screenshots, videos..etc) 1. I've edited this video for some highlights but this isn't the complete proof https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYu_rFBSSGI .
These videos are raw footage of my game play that day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8jiUCg8x08&t this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJYqqm1bz6k&t
and this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydUmZ_1y3UA&t= are my complete gameplays of that day.
Extra notes: As you can see when he joins the server he is perfectly hittable i kill him once and boom he becomes unhittable and then again spawns and becomes hittable so this is showing that his lag was very intentional especially as you can see he lags alot more in 2 VS 1 than in 1 VS 1, I can also show you guys what lag tool he is using if you call me in-game.
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LOL IDK why i wasted my 30mins watching the same shit :D dude look at your aim lol I think leadaim is the key in this game but anyways as admins can check these videos by themselves I don't need to explain and yeah sometimes that I'm teleporting(just only few times) its a display timeout problem(not only me but few other players also have the same problem https://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=14429.msg142902;boardseen#new ) and also u can see I starts jumping everytime after teleporting it is because when my display went out then my keys just stop working and I have to re-press them, and if you guys think that its an artificial lag then tell me why would I jump after teleporting meanwhile I can escape easily by using/taking advantage of my artificial lagg and also I am toggling my lagtools then admins would be having key toggle records.
P.S 2 vs 1 repa bro xD
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Admins don't have any sort of key toggle records. You say that you have some sort of display issue? I call your defence just plain old bs because you made an issue up to cover for your lag tools which i can prove by playing the game with the lag tool. And about the so called "jumps" you're not actually jumping but what is actually happening is that you release multiple packets which you had previously choked so the server is unsure where to place you so only on my screen you appear to be jumping but on your screen you're moving perfectly and i can prove this too in game infront of staff.
Even you can Google an example which is fakelag an old csgo hack which got patched
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Admins don't have any sort of key toggle records. You say that you have some sort of display issue? I call your defence just plain old bs because you made an issue up to cover for your lag tools which i can prove by playing the game with the lag tool. And about the so called "jumps" you're not actually jumping but what is actually happening is that you release multiple packets which you had previously choked so the server is unsure where to place you so only on my screen you appear to be jumping but on your screen you're moving perfectly and i can prove this too in game infront of staff.
Even you can Google an example which is fakelag an old csgo hack which got patched
LOL I think its useless to argue with braindead ppls.I have already explained everything,So now I don't care about your shitty logics.Well I have nothing more to say its upto staff now.
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seems like i've got an opportunity to post some video clips of him using same lag tools stuff tho i posted some of videos which can clear the situation more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrIXlogDGrk
AND
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbCTGeRLHMw
LETS HOPE that HE WAS HAVING THE SAME DISPLAY PROBLEM THAT TIME too XDDD
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First of all i'll start from the videos, both videos are not in 60fps. Also, Mine and yours FPS & PING isn't provided in your videos. fps and ping, both plays an important rule in syncing the shots. Apart from that Killerfrost's video is pretty old (https://imgur.com/ITdvV4j ) ( https://imgur.com/ApXjciv ). According to this section, https://ec.vc-mp.net/index.php?topic=712.0, the video is older than 3 months and it is invalid.
LETS HOPE that HE WAS HAVING THE SAME DISPLAY PROBLEM THAT TIME too XDDD
I'm facing this problem since from 10 or 15 days lol.
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Admins don't have any sort of key toggle records. You say that you have some sort of display issue? I call your defence just plain old bs because you made an issue up to cover for your lag tools which i can prove by playing the game with the lag tool. And about the so called "jumps" you're not actually jumping but what is actually happening is that you release multiple packets which you had previously choked so the server is unsure where to place you so only on my screen you appear to be jumping but on your screen you're moving perfectly and i can prove this too in game infront of staff.
Even you can Google an example which is fakelag an old csgo hack which got patched
LOL I think its useless to argue with braindead ppls.I have already explained everything,So now I don't care about your shitty logics.Well I have nothing more to say its upto staff now.
Yeah if nice advice about the braindead people but i already followed that by not arguging with you. Secondly you completely ignore the fact that you are hittable when you spawn once and at next spawn you become a rubber sponge for bullets not taking any damage whatsoever even when perfectly lead aimed.
Also @gerz or wsx2:
EC script only checks if you press the U key because it used to be tied to a popular sniper hack. It does not check for any others or maybe only f1
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@LumberJacK What kind of issue with your screen.
@Azal : Can you edit the video to make it more explanatory or at least mention. time-stamps for reference where you feel toggle is on and off.
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@LumberJacK What kind of issue with your screen.
Well my screen went out for 2 or 3 secs idk why but it makes me look like timeout for others, + my keys stop working and I have to re-press them.(Its not only me but few other members are also facing the same problem)
If you have any doubt then I can record it by using mobile phone(if its necessary).
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@LumberJacK What kind of issue with your screen.
@Azal : Can you edit the video to make it more explanatory or at least mention. time-stamps for reference where you feel toggle is on and off.
Hey @Ryne ! As you know its a monday and i have some work from college so i'll edit the FIRST POST or this one with timestamps in sometime when i am free from my assignments even though the first video is a small amount of highlights i think. and about the statements made by Zkq about more proof, sure i'll upload some and edit it.
However i must say that opinion of people who are not staff does not really count in the final judgement of this report unless it constitutes of undeniable facts so please don't waste your time guys.
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However i must say that opinion of people who are not staff does not really count in the final judgement of this report unless it constitutes of undeniable facts so please don't waste your time guys.
Well for your information these are the players with whom I play on daily basis and they know better than you.I Don't care about your fake reports cuz i'm 100% sure about myself that i'm not using any kind of tool.
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@LumberJacK : If you’re facing such problem why don’t you fix it rather than getting reported and getting advantage over other players with such issues.
@Azal : try to do it asap.
Everyone else try to stay away unless you have something solid to post
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@LumberJacK : If you’re facing such problem why don’t you fix it rather than getting reported and getting advantage over other players with such issues.
Well I'm trying to solve it, you can also ask kyle as we both are facing the same prob and he had posted it on vu forum aswell but still theres no solution.I tried everything but going to change my windows hope it will get fixed and about the advantage lol dude I don't think so that I have any advantage of this because during this display prob my keys stop working so how can you say that I have any advantage of this?
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You can have advantages like this.
https://youtu.be/SUzBmDDImXo
Actually I have recorded this video maybe before 1.5 months when I was playing. But you can see that lumberjack has stated that he is having this problem only since 10-15days. I'm facing this problem since from 10 or 15 days lol.
I don't know whether he wants to lie or whatever. It's upon to you staffs.
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I don't know whether he wants to lie or whatever. It's upon to you staffs.
Well I'm going to record a video and I hope it will clear the misunderstanding.
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I don't know whether he wants to lie or whatever. It's upon to you staffs.
Well I'm going to record a video and I hope it will clear the misunderstanding.
Hey, i am going to paste one more clip of one of the people who plays with you a lot. you have to tell me what issue he has by looking at it, By getting that clip evaluated by you i am sure any and all misunderstandings will be cleared.
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Off-topic: I will be adding timestamps to roughly all of the footage tonight.
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@Ryne Can you please ask him why he have stated that he is having his problem since 10-15 days. You can see clearly that the videos of mine and azal are recorded before a month.
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@Ryne Can you please ask him why he have stated that he is having his problem since 10-15 days. You can see clearly that the videos of mine and azal are recorded before a month.
Well keep your shits to yourself anyways I've pm'ed the videos to @Ryne , hope everthing will be fine now.
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I think there is a rule that, player can post evidences if they have any. Why don't you just stop ordering me what to do. It's been very clear that you are lying. Your statement proves it.
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I think there is a rule that, player can post evidences if they have any. Why don't you just stop ordering me what to do. It's been very clear that you are lying. Your statement proves it.
Admins know more than you and I've pm'ed the videos to ryne now its better for you to stop making useless replies and gtfo :)
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Alright, these are timestamps for the first video. Note that most of the times he turns on lag-tool at start of timestamp and at the end of timestamp its turned off. Usually that's the method I follow but some may be slightly different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8jiUCg8x08
TimeStamps
0:00 - 1:30, 3:37 - 3:50, 5:08 - 6:05, 7:06 - 7:22 and 10:45 - 11:15
Now the main point is he is perfectly hittable and then becomes superman in his next spawn, this is obviously way too much of an advantage for him as he can easily fight 2v1 or the 1vX situations. so please lumber explain why you are hittable and all of a sudden go unhittable?
I will be adding the timestamps of 2nd and 3rd video too and edit them here.
Also Lumberjack post all evidences publically if you got nothing to hide. No reason to PM administrators with evidence about a report which has its evidence open as well.
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I just posted the shit about you. I really don't care about you nigga and this server. You better asslick them more, you caught red handed that you lied.
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Locked for review.
Unlocked now. Try not to make this topic mess.
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Alright @LumberJacK 3 questions for you.
1: You say you had some sort of display issue and that causes the rubber banding we can see in the videos, for a second lets assume you're right, now please explain why you're perfectly hittable when you spawn one time and after getting killed you just become a sponge for bullets even if the player trying to shoot you is PERFECTLY LEAD-AIMING literally into the place where you're gonna crouch?
2: You in your offical statement have stated that this so called "display issue" is caused by some sort of software malfunction in your PC. Then where does this guy's explaination fit in who is your clan member who refferd to this random teleportation as "ping spikes"
which can be seen here in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kYIn4pQpcU
3: Most importantly: all evidence, even justification or proof that you have the so called "display issue" must be posted publically for EVERYONE to see. Look at my videos as an example they're totally open to public so your videos should be too so.
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Alright @LumberJacK 3 questions for you.
1: You say you had some sort of display issue and that causes the rubber banding we can see in the videos, for a second lets assume you're right, now please explain why you're perfectly hittable when you spawn one time and after getting killed you just become a sponge for bullets even if the player trying to shoot you is PERFECTLY LEAD-AIMING literally into the place where you're gonna crouch?
I think you should check this video also https://youtu.be/U1dqk_Jib0U its just a players movements nothing else if u want i can show u more videos . second thing is that since i'm facing the display issue i'm also facing fps drop you can also check in my videos.
2: You in your offical statement have stated that this so called "display issue" is caused by some sort of software malfunction in your PC. Then where does this guy's explaination fit in who is your clan member who refferd to this random teleportation as "ping spikes"
which can be seen here in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kYIn4pQpcU
3: Most importantly: all evidence, even justification or proof that you have the so called "display issue" must be posted publically for EVERYONE to see. Look at my videos as an example they're totally open to public so your videos should be too so.
okay you can check my display prob here https://youtu.be/IppvwmcGmrc , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg-TWyZ0zRY
and from kody's side https://youtu.be/HT_C0SMNEE4
I think everything is clear now.
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@Ryne Display issues have no impact whatsoever on what is going on ingame in an online environment, there's no such thing as "timeout" when your display is black or having issues displaying pixels. That excuse is utter horseshit, literally any software engineer can tell you the same thing.
@LumberJacK Assuming you have legitimate problems, you more than likely have a completely different problem with your PC that you are either unaware of or incapable of figuring out.
Most likely your CPU/Motherboard being the culprit. Either one of these being defective can cause a "timeout" symptom.
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Alright @LumberJacK 3 questions for you.
1: You say you had some sort of display issue and that causes the rubber banding we can see in the videos, for a second lets assume you're right, now please explain why you're perfectly hittable when you spawn one time and after getting killed you just become a sponge for bullets even if the player trying to shoot you is PERFECTLY LEAD-AIMING literally into the place where you're gonna crouch?
I think you should check this video also https://youtu.be/U1dqk_Jib0U its just a players movements nothing else if u want i can show u more videos . second thing is that since i'm facing the display issue i'm also facing fps drop you can also check in my videos.
2: You in your offical statement have stated that this so called "display issue" is caused by some sort of software malfunction in your PC. Then where does this guy's explaination fit in who is your clan member who refferd to this random teleportation as "ping spikes"
which can be seen here in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kYIn4pQpcU
3: Most importantly: all evidence, even justification or proof that you have the so called "display issue" must be posted publically for EVERYONE to see. Look at my videos as an example they're totally open to public so your videos should be too so.
okay you can check my display prob here https://youtu.be/IppvwmcGmrc , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg-TWyZ0zRY
and from kody's side https://youtu.be/HT_C0SMNEE4
I think everything is clear now.
I have no concern with fulton's video and whatever he posted. This video however is a fabrication and nothing more because you're just yanking the display cable out and putting it back in I don't know if you took help from a friend but it does not matter. Moreover to prove this i can also make a display issue video of my own because that timeout on Kody's screen was legit you using the lag-hack. Infact i will contact a friend we might actually make one just need to see how important staff considers this before actually making one. Also i think audio was intentionally cut from your video so we can't actually hear you or your friend pulling out the display cable.
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@Ryne Display issues have no impact whatsoever on what is going on ingame in an online environment, there's no such thing as "timeout" when your display is black or having issues displaying pixels. That excuse is utter horseshit, literally any software engineer can tell you the same thing.
This actually explains the situation quite well and is very helpful from brian. As i said above i can fabricate this exact thing if staff needs it. because i know at this point your lies are getting caught and you're trying to conjure any sort of bullshit you can.
What i am trying to say is these videos raise even more questions than they answer.
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This video however is a fabrication and nothing more because you're just yanking the display cable out and putting it back in I don't know if you took help from a friend but it does not matter.
Did you read anything from what I just posted above? Yanking the display cable out of your monitor has no impact on what is happening ingame. It can NOT forge a timeout.
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This video however is a fabrication and nothing more because you're just yanking the display cable out and putting it back in I don't know if you took help from a friend but it does not matter.
Did you read anything from what I just posted above? Yanking the display cable out of your monitor has no impact on what is happening ingame. It can NOT forge a timeout.
Yes, but pressing a toggle key to cause artificial lag exactly when you pull your display cable out can. And its pretty helpful too because you don't need to show what lag-tool does either haha.
btw how are you doing man? its been a long time :P
ALSO AS I SAID I CAN CREATE AN EXACTLY SIMILAR VIDEO WITH THE HELP OF MY FRIEND. should i do that to prove this is a fabrication? asking EC administration
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Another thing i'd like to add is that i too own a similar monitor and i can confirm that if you take out the display cable and put it back in it always shows The type of output and resolution EXACTLY what we seen in LumberJacK's video.
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This video however is a fabrication and nothing more because you're just yanking the display cable out and putting it back in I don't know if you took help from a friend but it does not matter.
Did you read anything from what I just posted above? Yanking the display cable out of your monitor has no impact on what is happening ingame. It can NOT forge a timeout.
You are right Brian. But still the point is that MD was always called "Fake lag users" back to 2015, when I joined the game I heard too many people saying that, Being MD member, I also got accused for artifical lag usage. And I still want to tell you that lag cheat was released after this report was made, and there is no way MD members could get it,
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@LumberJacK Assuming you have legitimate problems, you more than likely have a completely different problem with your PC that you are either unaware of or incapable of figuring out.
Most likely your CPU/Motherboard being the culprit. Either one of these being defective can cause a "timeout" symptom.
I am still not able to figure out that what could be causing this problem I have tried to insert a different RAM but it doesnt affect but I guess you are right about motherboard problem.
This video however is a fabrication and nothing more because you're just yanking the display cable out and putting it back in I don't know if you took help from a friend but it does not matter. Moreover to prove this i can also make a display issue video of my own because that timeout on Kody's screen was legit you using the lag-hack. Infact i will contact a friend we might actually make one just need to see how important staff considers this before actually making one. Also i think audio was intentionally cut from your video so we can't actually hear you or your friend pulling out the display cable.
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@Ryne Display issues have no impact whatsoever on what is going on ingame in an online environment, there's no such thing as "timeout" when your display is black or having issues displaying pixels. That excuse is utter horseshit, literally any software engineer can tell you the same thing.
This actually explains the situation quite well and is very helpful from brian. As i said above i can fabricate this exact thing if staff needs it. because i know at this point your lies are getting caught and you're trying to conjure any sort of bullshit you can.
What i am trying to say is these videos raise even more questions than they answer.
LOL WTF? new excuses now idk if your brain is fully dead or what I face this display prob atleast 2 times in a min what do you think theres always a person standing with me who plug in and plug out display cable com'on bro just use lil bit of your brain + staff also have toggle records so better ask them.
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@Ryne Display issues have no impact whatsoever on what is going on ingame in an online environment, there's no such thing as "timeout" when your display is black or having issues displaying pixels. That excuse is utter horseshit, literally any software engineer can tell you the same thing.
I was also thinking same, what screen has to do with what is being processed by basically CPU. The most it can do to lumberjack is to go blind for 2-3 seconds which should look normal to his opponent as lumberjack out of blue started running like chicken for 2-3 seconds.
@LumberJacK : Do you only face this screen issue while playing vc-mp only (almost in every server)? Do you face similar problem while browsing websites?
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@Ryne Display issues have no impact whatsoever on what is going on ingame in an online environment, there's no such thing as "timeout" when your display is black or having issues displaying pixels. That excuse is utter horseshit, literally any software engineer can tell you the same thing.
I was also thinking same, what screen has to do with what is being processed by basically CPU. The most it can do to lumberjack is to go blind for 2-3 seconds which should look normal to his opponent as lumberjack out of blue started running like chicken for 2-3 seconds.
@LumberJacK : Do you only face this screen issue while playing vc-mp only (almost in every server)? Do you face similar problem while browsing websites?
This isn't any issue it was made up because we gave him time to make up new lies and fake ass bullshit. This is obviously fabricated and now i have decided i will soon provide in-depth proof about this very soon. Because look at your own posts you're just trying to lie your way out of this as you said you are having some issue for 10 days but we posted month old videos
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I am still not able to figure out that what could be causing this problem I have tried to insert a different RAM but it doesnt affect but I guess you are right about motherboard problem.
RAM at most causes system instability or just failure to boot altogether (if it would fail mid session it would just shutdown your PC).
As I said, assuming you have a legitimate problem it is going to be either your CPU or motherboard that is causing it based on what you showed and described.
Either one of those being defective means two things:
1. The defect is caused by a shitton of dust inside your case, meaning you have to clean it (yes dirt can actually cause components not to work properly or cause internal connection issues with your parts).
2. Either your CPU or motherboard is on its last legs and will die sooner or later, replacement is imminent.
@LumberJacK : Do you only face this screen issue while playing vc-mp only (almost in every server)? Do you face similar problem while browsing websites?
If it's a legitimate issue with broken hardware it can not be exclusive to playing either VCMP, just one server or any workload in general. That just simply isn't how it works.
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@LumberJacK : Do you only face this screen issue while playing vc-mp only (almost in every server)? Do you face similar problem while browsing websites?
Nope not only in vcmp but also while browsing but it happens less outside as compare to ingame.
And about this azal who is barking around and calling me a liar lol dude get a life why would I lie for this game lol? I don't even give a single fk to your toxic thinking and go upload anything idc cuz I know i'm playing clean and I have given all the proofs and now the final decission is on admins.
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@LumberJacK : Do you only face this screen issue while playing vc-mp only (almost in every server)? Do you face similar problem while browsing websites?
Nope not only in vcmp but also while browsing but it happens less outside as compare to ingame.
And about this azal who is barking around and calling me a liar lol dude get a life why would I lie for this game lol? I don't even give a single fk to your toxic thinking and go upload anything idc cuz I know i'm playing clean and I have given all the proofs and now the final decission is on admins.
I don't know because you are someone who lies infront of admins. However with that being said i will post video proof of exactly what is happening in that video. Stay tuned
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Pull of your Monitor cable and put it back inside the socket and match the exact same timing of Lumberjack's display restarts. If we cut off the power, the lcd takes enough time to actually give you the display again and that thing doesn't make lines in the display that his display is making off.
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Hi, I was going to upload videos on Sunday but lost all my data while video editing due to power outage.
Therefore i will re-record and upload all relevent proof by tonight. I will also answer all of your questions zkq, kody, lumberjack.
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Hi, gonna post 2 videos rn
this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OBuGHgTcdo
and this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmh5_Qb75Yk
I will provide an explanation and closure once i come back in like 4 hours.
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I don't know you are dumb or what look at my videos and then check your theres alot of difference but leme explain, In my videos my lagg is cuz of my pc prob which is real(lagg) but in your videos its fake lag(caused by any tool) and the second thing is my keys stop working everytime after this display timeout issue and cuz my display went out I also don't even know where my oppenent is but in your you can see it clearly lol idk what more admins need from my side to prove that i'm playing fair.
And the last thing I want to say azal you have the lagtool right then send it to admins so admin can make anti-cheat for this lagtool but wait, then what will happen to you and your friends lol anyways lets wait for the admins reply now.
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Without taking the side either of my clanmate or the plaintiff, I'd like to bring about some unbiased and just opinions
Our friend Lumberjack here has got a contemplating lag here. He's particularly unhittable without any noticable drops in FPS, lag or ping spikes.
But let's leave that alone, it's the explanation which fascinates me rather. Take this (https://i.imgur.com/1wYwsck.png) for instance from RTV, it almost has been a month from that when he was being screamed about lag. I was about to verbally warn for the record, but he's not a local site there.
So let's be generous and hope his said rickrolls are real. But he knows about them and it has been quite a time, quite enough for him to have already it gotten fixed by an expert if he can't by himself.
Even if there's some display problem, I don't understand how can it induce lag or make you appear timedout for other players, I just can't condone that. And let's suppose his display abruptly goes off, which means he has lost his eyes to the game and if jumping around is all he does then how is he unhittable while the results should be presumably contrasting. A randomly jumping player who is not shooting is not difficult to hit.
He stated he experiences this problem twice a minute but if you are aware of his playstyle he constantly keeps playing without much of a dying.
The topic he quoted from Kyle, Kyle has a completely different issue. I've witnessed it happening, his game freezes off and he actually appears timeouting which is due to a faulty copy of the game and he has nothing to do with the display, it's pretty unique for Lumberjack to have such troublesome issue I'd say.
However, I'd say that Azal's latest videos completely differ from what appends to Lumberjack. But what it appears to me is that its some kind of toggle, which I think had stated earlier, and I'd like to know if it can be toggled for particularly short intervals? That would make it very much similar to what I have been noticing.
Talking about the anti-cheat of the presented tool, I may not think it is possible because, as it appears, it might have nothing to do with the game itself but the connection.
Further ado, I'd respect and appreciate your skills if I could convince myself it isn't for your lag.
Regards.
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Pull of your Monitor cable and put it back inside the socket and match the exact same timing of Lumberjack's display restarts. If we cut off the power, the lcd takes enough time to actually give you the display again and that thing doesn't make lines in the display that his display is making off.
Yeah, the thing is if you pull your monitor cable out and put it back in which i have done and noted exact time this is how much time it takes for it to turn back on.
About those lines, the camera lumberjack was recording with was pretty cheap and his display too isn't modern so he is getting lines and this a problem which the whole WORLD experiences i can show you this example too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGYAvxUJZd8
I don't know you are dumb or what look at my videos and then check your theres alot of difference but leme explain, In my videos my lagg is cuz of my pc prob which is real(lagg) but in your videos its fake lag(caused by any tool) and the second thing is my keys stop working everytime after this display timeout issue and cuz my display went out I also don't even know where my oppenent is but in your you can see it clearly lol idk what more admins need from my side to prove that i'm playing fair.
And the last thing I want to say azal you have the lagtool right then send it to admins so admin can make anti-cheat for this lagtool but wait, then what will happen to you and your friends lol anyways lets wait for the admins reply now.
The point highlighted in red is what you say, The only thing you've managed to record and show staff is you yanking out your display cable and toggling your hack on. We don't see what you see on your screen on that time and that's the window you need.
About anti-cheat however: I've sent this to VC:MP Developers and i hope they can come up with a solution even though it is less likely
However, I'd say that Azal's latest videos completely differ from what appends to Lumberjack. But what it appears to me is that its some kind of toggle, which I think had stated earlier, and I'd like to know if it can be toggled for particularly short intervals? That would make it very much similar to what I have been noticing.
Yeah man you can do exactly that, I was just in a hurry to record so i didn't practice alot with the lag tool just told alone to record me so yeah big thanks to him.
However yes, this can be used and made to function for shor intervals i just used it in the most blatant way for recording purposes.
also let me provide some more insight that this is a lag tool:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJYqqm1bz6k 5:42 to 6:00 in this video he toggles on and it can clearly be seen because just before i am redirected to spawn screen we can see him running into the pillar which is identical to my video i made on LAG-TOOLS
and 10:46 to 10;55 in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydUmZ_1y3UA
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But let's leave that alone, it's the explanation which fascinates me rather. Take this (https://i.imgur.com/1wYwsck.png) for instance from RTV, it almost has been a month from that when he was being screamed about lag. I was about to verbally warn for the record, but he's not a local site there.
So let's be generous and hope his said rickrolls are real. But he knows about them and it has been quite a time, quite enough for him to have already it gotten fixed by an expert if he can't by himself.
Hm about that ss you gave leme tell you about what happened there I was fighting with your clanmate luchgox and I knocked him down and suddenly display went out and after that I was unable to kill him, you can also ask him about this for more information.
And about fixing this disply yeah your are right that it being quite long facing this prob and why i'm not fixing it because at start I was unable to figure out whats causing this problem so I tried changing Ram but it didn't affect.
quite enough for him to have already it gotten fixed by an expert if he can't by himself.
everyone got probs in their reallife I don't think its not essential to tell you why I haven't fixed it yet.
Yeah, the thing is if you pull your monitor cable out and put it back in which i have done and noted exact time this is how much time it takes for it to turn back on.
About those lines, the camera lumberjack was recording with was pretty cheap and his display too isn't modern so he is getting lines and this a problem which the whole WORLD experiences i can show you this example too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGYAvxUJZd8
Oh Sheet samsung a51's cam is cheap lol. (https://i.imgur.com/C2IUpBJ.png) I think you are watching videos on 144p xD
And from now I'm only going to answer only admin's question cuz its useless to argue with this azal :D
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Without taking the side either of my clanmate or the plaintiff, I'd like to bring about some unbiased and just opinions
Our friend Lumberjack here has got a contemplating lag here. He's particularly unhittable without any noticable drops in FPS, lag or ping spikes.
His FPS drops are noticable and his ping spikes ocassionally.
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So let's be generous and hope his said rickrolls are real. But he knows about them and it has been quite a time, quite enough for him to have already it gotten fixed by an expert if he can't by himself.
Even if there's some display problem, I don't understand how can it induce lag or make you appear timedout for other players, I just can't condone that. And let's suppose his display abruptly goes off, which means he has lost his eyes to the game and if jumping around is all he does then how is he unhittable while the results should be presumably contrasting. A randomly jumping player who is not shooting is not difficult to hit.
He stated he experiences this problem twice a minute but if you are aware of his playstyle he constantly keeps playing without much of a dying.
Talking about the anti-cheat of the presented tool, I may not think it is possible because, as it appears, it might have nothing to do with the game itself but the connection.
Further ado, I'd respect and appreciate your skills if I could convince myself it isn't for your lag.
Regards.
He already told you that he already changed the RAM and everyone has some financial problems and IRL stuff.
And about that display problem you're mentioning, it's not only his display that goes out it's like your pc freezes for a while (2-3 seconds) at the same time his display goes off as well and it's like you're running and you pause your game (his pc freezes instead of pausing) while running (or jumping) that makes him unhittable.
The anti-cheat of the presented tool is possible, it doesn't have any relation with the internet connection that tool makes you lag (as you are gonna have a timeout or packet loss) but actually he is pressing a key to do that and it is easily caught if you check the record of the toggle keys of a player.
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But what it appears to me is that its some kind of toggle, which I think had stated earlier, and I'd like to know if it can be toggled for particularly short intervals? That would make it very much similar to what I have been noticing.
Talking about the anti-cheat of the presented tool, I may not think it is possible because, as it appears, it might have nothing to do with the game itself but the connection.
Just to clarify, the version of the tool that I tested years prior did have an option to set intervals.
I don't know whether this tool has been updated since or not.
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for me i think its normal lag not lag tools and i dont think so lumberjack needs lagtools or smth like that
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Not supporting anyone but can every off-topic dudes refrain themselves from posting here?
It is all about lumberjack and the report thing. I know I don't have anything to add neither these own opinions have to. If he is using anything he will get caught anyways and if not, then report will be denied. I don't understand why ppls who aren't even lumber's clan mates and doesn't have anything special to add, is coming here giving their "good for nothing" opinions.
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But what it appears to me is that its some kind of toggle, which I think had stated earlier, and I'd like to know if it can be toggled for particularly short intervals? That would make it very much similar to what I have been noticing.
Talking about the anti-cheat of the presented tool, I may not think it is possible because, as it appears, it might have nothing to do with the game itself but the connection.
Just to clarify, the version of the tool that I tested years prior did have an option to set intervals.
I don't know whether this tool has been updated since or not.
This is something totally different, exactly what MD uses, as someone very close to MD gave me this from within private boards.
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This is something totally different, exactly what MD uses, as someone very close to MD gave me this from within private boards.
Dude you are the one here with worst reputation and whole administration knows that none is going to trust your these fake propagandas. so stop wasting your and others time.
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As you can see this video from roughly an year ago where LumberJack is still using lag-tool, as he has himself stated that he is having that issue since 10-15 days approx 3 weeks ago so i am asking in the light of that what is this? now i know lumberjack is gonna say that this evidence is old and i agree. What i am trying to say is that this should be used as an extention to Azal's evidence/report on LumberJack
PING or FPS lag does not have this much of a drastic effect on player's lag (3-4 seconds because we lag for like 250 on average which is 1/4th of a second) So considering that this is unreasonable and should be punished as this is a lag-tool which has been finally exposed.
https://youtu.be/RbCTGeRLHMw
https://youtu.be/DrIXlogDGrk
Along with that i would like to add some other video as proof along with /ping proofs and here it is.
https://youtu.be/S1ub8xpkhck
If video is old it really doesnot matter i post those evidences to show they have been using these shits from very long time.
P.S:
https://youtu.be/0sbSxkGg578
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As you can see this video from roughly an year ago where LumberJack is still using lag-tool, as he has himself stated that he is having that issue since 10-15 days approx 3 weeks ago so i am asking in the light of that what is this? now i know lumberjack is gonna say that this evidence is old and i agree. What i am trying to say is that this should be used as an extention to Azal's evidence/report on LumberJack
PING or FPS lag does not have this much of a drastic effect on player's lag (3-4 seconds because we lag for like 250 on average which is 1/4th of a second) So considering that this is unreasonable and should be punished as this is a lag-tool which has been finally exposed.
https://youtu.be/RbCTGeRLHMw
https://youtu.be/DrIXlogDGrk
Along with that i would like to add some other video as proof along with /ping proofs and here it is.
https://youtu.be/S1ub8xpkhck
If video is old it really doesnot matter i post those evidences to show they have been using these shits from very long time.
P.S:
https://youtu.be/0sbSxkGg578
@Killer frost^ your 1st and 2nd video is not even in 60fps, everyone is well aware that bandicam drops the fps, What if you're lagging not him? your ping/fps is not mentioned in the first 2 videos.
> About the 3rd video, you mentioned the fps./ping, Wild hunter's ping spikes at the very start of the video from 227-257 lmao. You expect him to crush heads with that jttr and with 200+ ping? which is spiking too lmao.
You really need to prove first that fps/ping is stable because both of these things cause massive lags in gameplay. I'll give you a example here,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px1tUN9On1I
if you watch the video from 1:58, my ping is stable but the person who i'm fighting with has a unstable fps/ping and he's completely unhittable, that means we should ban him for lag tools? lmao
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Arghh! lets assume the worst case scnerio which is that I have 500 ping and lumberjack has 250 ping he should still be hittable even in that scnerio because this game runs on dedicated servers and not on p2p hosting method. What i am trying to say is that my shot should not take more than 1 second to sync and if it does then it is a Lag-tool almost confirmed. but if it takes 3 seconds then it is a lag tool without any doubt.
Now, diverting from my orignal topic of discussion, I'd like to say that you were using lag-tools in that video specifically after 1:58 because of the editing tricks you used (like focusing on chat using F5 to hide radar and what not). The reason because i say this is if you look in the background you can see people moving towards walls and you can see me aiming towards someone and sitting still because you kind of freeze your side of the game for me that's the beauty of lag tools that if you have them you can report other person for it as well because you are choking your packets so the other player won't properly load for you either but because the server does not immediately break connection it waits for a certian time i think 5 seconds before doing so. Therefore i am also gonna make the prediction that you won't have the unedited version of this video to post online because file was too big and you had to remove it from your hard-drive and the stuff uploaded to youtube is all you have saved.
also evidence presented against you matches Azal's video in which he showed lag tool infront of admins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OBuGHgTcdo exactly at 2:30 you can see the same thing happens in his video and ours when we show that MD is using lag-tool.
And
https://youtu.be/GqdeCLKCmVg
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Now, diverting from my orignal topic of discussion, I'd like to say that you were using lag-tools in that video specifically after 1:58 because of the editing tricks you used (like focusing on chat using F5 to hide radar and what not). The reason because i say this is if you look in the background you can see people moving towards walls and you can see me aiming towards someone and sitting still because you kind of freeze your side of the game for me that's the beauty of lag tools that if you have them you can report other person for it as well because you are choking your packets so the other player won't properly load for you either but because the server does not immediately break connection it waits for a certian time i think 5 seconds before doing so.
i can see you losing your braincells tbh. who was moving to the walls? lmfao, You really need to know first that what lag is. Basically that's not how lag works that your bullets get desync and all shits. It's actually a delay between the players. If you're lagging you will get delay in your game. In simple words, if you're lagging and shooting a guy in your screen, his actual position will be different, he'll be somewhere else in his screen. that's delay. what is this logic that it takes 1 sec to sync the bullets blah blah lmao.
Other than that, In this video https://youtu.be/RbCTGeRLHMw
You must see that the guy running next to lumberjack at :0:32 idk if he's gogeta or someone is also lagging there, he teleported from point to another which simply says that the scenerio was laggy and delaying
> @admins Please take a look here, So basically, You can clearly see in the video provided above this that killerfrost is throwing grenades at lumberjack right after the gogeta lagged to another point, okay. To prove, that he it was killerfrost's lag too, i've few things. So basically what happens is that when you throw a grenade, if your game is not laggy or giving you delays, then the grenade appears right with the throwing animations, but if your game is laggy or your game is giving you delays, the grenade takes sometime to appear after the animation, Which you can see at 0:33, when killerfrost throws a grenade, due to lag, his nade appears after a delay. So elaoborate this further more, i've created this video,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dT9lXdhv1U
in the very first part, i've a stable ping/fps without any lag, the nades are perfectly synced with my game but in the second part (0:14) i've a unstable ping and delaying gameplay, the nades are taking enough time to appear after the animation
about 2nd video https://youtu.be/DrIXlogDGrk
This happens with almost everyone, every single day. You can even see that here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvohLQN4w08
ALSO NOW STOP ACCUSING ME FOR LAG TOOL LMAO, YOU'RE REALLY CHILD SAYING I EDITED THE PART, THE GUYS WERE GOING IN WALLS. WATCH THE VIDEO AGAIN OR EITHER GO FOR EYE SIGHT CHECKUP
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Now, diverting from my orignal topic of discussion, I'd like to say that you were using lag-tools in that video specifically after 1:58 because of the editing tricks you used (like focusing on chat using F5 to hide radar and what not). The reason because i say this is if you look in the background you can see people moving towards walls and you can see me aiming towards someone and sitting still because you kind of freeze your side of the game for me that's the beauty of lag tools that if you have them you can report other person for it as well because you are choking your packets so the other player won't properly load for you either but because the server does not immediately break connection it waits for a certian time i think 5 seconds before doing so.
i can see you losing your braincells tbh. who was moving to the walls? lmfao, You really need to know first that what lag is. Basically that's not how lag works that your bullets get desync and all shits. It's actually a delay between the players. If you're lagging you will get delay in your game. In simple words, if you're lagging and shooting a guy in your screen, his actual position will be different, he'll be somewhere else in his screen. that's delay. what is this logic that it takes 1 sec to sync the bullets blah blah lmao.
Other than that, In this video https://youtu.be/RbCTGeRLHMw
You must see that the guy running next to lumberjack at :0:32 idk if he's gogeta or someone is also lagging there, he teleported from point to another which simply says that the scenerio was laggy and delaying
> @admins Please take a look here, So basically, You can clearly see in the video provided above this that killerfrost is throwing grenades at lumberjack right after the gogeta lagged to another point, okay. To prove, that he it was killerfrost's lag too, i've few things. So basically what happens is that when you throw a grenade, if your game is not laggy or giving you delays, then the grenade appears right with the throwing animations, but if your game is laggy or your game is giving you delays, the grenade takes sometime to appear after the animation, Which you can see at 0:33, when killerfrost throws a grenade, due to lag, his nade appears after a delay. So elaoborate this further more, i've created this video,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dT9lXdhv1U
in the very first part, i've a stable ping/fps without any lag, the nades are perfectly synced with my game but in the second part (0:14) i've a unstable ping and delaying gameplay, the nades are taking enough time to appear after the animation
about 2nd video https://youtu.be/DrIXlogDGrk
This happens with almost everyone, every single day. You can even see that here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvohLQN4w08
ALSO NOW STOP ACCUSING ME FOR LAG TOOL LMAO, YOU'RE REALLY CHILD SAYING I EDITED THE PART, THE GUYS WERE GOING IN WALLS. WATCH THE VIDEO AGAIN OR EITHER GO FOR EYE SIGHT CHECKUP
Do you have the unedited version if the video you had posted previously? If not then you don't prove anything.
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Warned and banned from posting
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@killerfrost mate, lemme tell you one thing,
https://youtu.be/S1ub8xpkhck you're talking about this video?
right in the start of the video 0:06 - ping spikes from 188 - 227- 257 ? where's MD lag here? lmao
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After discussion with management we decided to deny this report because there is not enough evidence. Moreover I myself played against lumberjack many times and I faced his lag as well even though his ping was normal. After discussion with lumberjack I found out that his PC is the problem which we can't do anything about it. He got finance problem to upgrade his PC at the moment. Therefore, this report is denied.
P.S BTW he is not the only one having this issue. There are other players who have the same problem.