Grand Theft Auto European City
Server Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Ferrari32 on March 16, 2017, 10:57:16 pm
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Hi!
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Absolute bullshit.
Just thought people would like to know what the Vice Underdogs clan actually thinks about your utterly smelly propagandic dishonest bullshit :)
I'm personally starting a campaign to boycot EC. Not because you have hackers among your staff. Not because you can't tell lag apart from speedgear. Not because you have an outdated script. Not even because all you do is asslick WK as your favorite passtime.
Purely for the reason that you are liars and hold false testimony about the words of the entirety of my clan.
Eat shit howl.
Have a nice day, the rest of you!
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How you may know bullshit or not if you are not a staff? Is it leaked by someone of your clan in staff?
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How you may know bullshit or not if you are not a staff? Is it leaked by someone of your clan in staff?
Oh how glad I am you asked!
I was in fact asked to forward the footage showing absolutely normal gameplay to my clan and conduct an investigation based on it. The entirety of the clan found nothing wrong with the video that was forwarded.
Yet somehow my clan is onboard with Siezer being the satan of Vice city multiplayer.
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They don't ban you from Forum. Not because you're instead there to say '' Bullshit ''
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I was in fact asked to forward the footage showing absolutely normal gameplay to my clan
But do you understand that fact your clan is not judge of each server in vc-mp?
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They didn't ban you from Forum. Not because you're instead there to say '' Bullshit ''
Indeed, I'm here to say that a statement given by the very manager of this server is absolute bullshit. Why am I saying it? Because it in fact is bullshit.
I was in fact asked to forward the footage showing absolutely normal gameplay to my clan
But do you understand that fact your clan is not judge of each server in vc-mp?
Indeed I do, I've never insinuated that banning or not banning Siezer is the decision of my clan. Someone else however did, and it was Howl. Hence the topic title.
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Buddy its up to you whatever you wants to say there but be in limits.. They can hear you if you are any of the staff member there
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Buddy its up to you whatever you wants to say there but be in limits.. They can hear you if you are any of the staff member there
never forget http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=2623.0
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This is actually bullshit. This is the crappiest shit one would ever take. I don't think no other decision can be this much full of shit as this one is. I had a slight notion that this fucking decision will be against me. I sloged my ass off to make you realize that it is not a speed gear but a simple lag/glitch/slide. Oh well, that's that.
I had heared that the staff team is full of dumb asses but now i have personally experienced it. That was such a clummy thing that they did. No doubt, i respected you all a lot but after this decision i don't give a shit about you.
I can no longer continue in this showground of injustice and punks. So, i won't ever play in this server full of dotards. I truely congartulate you on having such a clumsy and lousy server and the staff team is to be held accountable for this lousiness. I fucking quit. Peace out.
VU only knows how to lag and glitch.
Mr, you should feel ahsamed because your clan is full of hackers they only know how to use a hack, to invent a hack and share a hack. Don't pretend to be what you are not, Mr.smatass.
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it is not a speed gear but a simple lag/glitch/slide.
Nothing wrong here, to be fair, everything that gives you same advantage as hacks (as serious as F1 and speedgear) should be treated equally, these are your personal problems and nobody elses'. Too bad only few will understand this in vc-mp.
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it is not a speed gear but a simple lag/glitch/slide.
Nothing wrong here, to be fair, everything that gives you same advantage as hacks (as serious as F1 and speedgear) should be treated equally, these are your personal problems and nobody elses'. Too bad only few will understand this in vc-mp.
Not that I don't agree.. but such a solution is simply infeasible; the playercount would drop down... straight to the bottom.
Funny how you call his PC wooden while it's perfectly capable of playing this game at 1080p 60 FPS unlike 90% of your clan.
At least 90% of active players in VU isn't 2 1, like it is in your clan's case.
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http://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=7901.msg93862#new
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Fair enough, that's your outlook. Your words are not going to make even a little change in me cus you're one of those people who starts to moan when things don't go in their favour.
So are you going to apologize if i show you the private boards discussion against seizer?
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It is hard to not moan, when the accused is not even given a chance to defend himself, let alone see the evidence presented against him.
(This video is private)
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http://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=7901.msg93862#new
I was reading the shitty topic you've made and I saw my nick there so I'd like to know when the fuck did I misuse my power? I'm part of EC's staff since 2015 and from my point of view I've never been reported with a valid reason, and just for letting you know I've been reported only 7 times in two years and a half, 6 of those reports are here, in this forum and the previous one was in maiyan's forums, the old report was about rpg in close combat, report which was denied because I was fair away from the guy that reported me, I may have mistakes since I'm human but I'll never abuse of power to ban, mute, kick or whatever I can do against players since it totally goes against of my personal ideals of how a person must behave, even if this is a game I try to do the same here to be the most fair possible.
Let's review my reports in this forum.
1) http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=1627.0 I guess there is no need to add nothing more, it was stats padding here and in mars.
2) http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=2627.0 The guy reported me because my radar was off which is obviously a bug, and after I knocked him in a duel he paused the game. Nothing wrong here, in fact the issue was resolved.
3) http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=2757.0 the guy reported me because I banned him more days than his brother, wtf dude. Also he did death evasion, again nothing wrong.
4) http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=3315.0 I just kicked adrenaline because his ping was like 800 and he was warping, he made his spree in shafi and swat not me, and however if his spree was made in rounds against me what the fuck is wrong with it? it's part of the game, my decision was not wrong.
5) http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=3573.0 Seems like this guy has issues against me so he reported me for not kicking traphole, when nobody reported traphole so why the fuck should I kick traphole if nobody is complaining about his lag? it doesnt make sense.
6) http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=3593.0 This was discussed between some staffs and all agreed in, I just made the honors. I didn't say oh siezer, who the fuck is siezer? meh. doesn't matter I wanna ban him because I dislike his nickname or whatever, I don't even know him why the fuck I'll ban him? He said lot of trash against me in his report. Unfortunatelly I'm preparing some final exams in university so I'm not active right now and I didn't have the opportunity to talk with him, I just come here because two guys poked me via whatsapp about all this crap. About siezer's ban. he could just pm me in mirc, forum in a polite way or even make a topic in general discussion or ban appeal section instead of what he has done and things could be discussed under good terms.
So, ferrari, if you dislike so much EC and you're so good why you bother in make such topic against us? just be more good than us, don't play here if you dislike EC and its politics. I thought you were different dude, you're not fair, not with me at least.
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Don't make things worst with insulting other clan. Insulting/useless replies will be removed, lets go straight to the point.
The admin report against Azulej should be denied as it's not Azulej's fault, he simply took the job of banning player after the admins had finished their discussion. The 'Admin Report' board is used to report admin that's caught abusing his powers or breaking the server rules, it's already stated in the description & i dont see Azulej abused his power in the report.
while for those with 3rd party tools that gives advantages are just waiting for a ban, but as admins cant take action without evidence or a clear rules..we might have to open a discussion about it first and without proof, we cant do anything yet. There are few players that are being watched by admins, admins are just collecting evidences to ban them & it is not as easy as pointing at people's mistake and complaining. There are alot of glitch in 0.4 and the problem with FPS, ping..etc, so it's not easy to get a clear evidence. The admins might even end up banning wrong player, that's why it takes time to handle reports related to 3rd party tools and that's one of the reason we have unban appeal board
The admins also suspect few more players using speed modification, but before we have a good evidence against them, we couldnt take any action and we have to let them play freely. We had a few discussion about these matter in private( whether evidence provided by player or vid from admins ), but it end up with the result that it was caused by glitch of vcmp after the admin tried to reproduce the same thing. As the players dont know, they would think that admins take action directly without any discussion.
http://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=7901
About your topic, it's totaly bullshit with wrong facts. You told that EC staff are bad and biased on their decision, while you cant even get your facts right, it's wrong & your own statement is biased, quite shameful for an ex-staff member. Sevrin was not EC manager, he was EC admin & he got demoted to EC moderator, he no longer has access to ban & he can only report rule breakers or kick them. About script, the changelogs are here: http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=290.0 and we are sticking to the DM mode, not a car race. In the topic, you had also counted the wrong/invalid reports against the staff members, for what reason ? To make players think that they are reported many times without counting whether the reports are valid or not ?
do you expect us to remove him just because he has alot of invalid reports against him ? If that's how you think, you just proved that you dont care about evidence and your decision is biased.
You ran away when EC was facing hard time, now you are posting wrong facts to effect other players view/thought on EC & you are proud of it ? Now, dont think to hide it by deleting/editing your topic in VU forum. You just proved you are not ready to make a move in a good and clean way.
What Howl said was also right, the staff in EC are not from specific clan or only clanless players. So, the admins/mods from VU, MK, ULK and clanless admin also post their views.
Stop getting us into your personal problem with other players, dont blame us if you cant get good evidences against your enemies for the admin to take action. Im pretty sure many other servers had also faced the same problem with confirming hack/rule break, we can start discussing in a good way or the problem will never be solved. We have seen you running away from problem instead of discussing it nicely, will you do it again this time ?
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dont blame us if you cant get good evidences against your enemies for the admin to take action..
http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=3607.0
Check this report,it was a clear death evade .
One can do any stuff to prevent their ban,why should the animation fail if your gta vc is clean,or else he just made a false video to prevent his ban.
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didnt he proved about it in his video ?
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1. I've tried it, seems like i got same result.
2. Off-topic and insulting replies removed, you may use 'report to moderator' if i missed them.
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One can do any stuff to prevent their ban,why should the animation fail if your gta vc is clean,or else he just made a false video to prevent his ban.
Have you tried doing it too?
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I registered here to post
Goodluck EC
2/50
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I won't insult nobody, because that's not the point.
Honestly, always I'm trying to keep this community alive (Because it's hard with all of this drama about WK, or speedgear <- the new f1 drama). I respect your views guys, EC is not perfect, and I accept your comments because that make us better day by day.
I barely know you Ferrari in all this time that I've been here, I don't understand why you are saying that all of us are inexperienced,
as I said I won't insult nobody, I think I didn't do anything wrong in all the time that I'm administrating this server.
Have a good day.
-Crack
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I won't insult nobody, because that's not the point.
Honestly, always I'm trying to keep this community alive (Because it's hard with all of this drama about WK, or speedgear <- the new f1 drama). I respect your views guys, EC is not perfect, and I accept your comments because that make us better day by day.
I barely know you Ferrari in all this time that I've been here, I don't understand why you are saying that all of us are inexperienced,
as I said I won't insult nobody, I think I didn't do anything wrong in all the time that I'm administrating this server.
Have a good day.
-Crack
I just reply here to remark this comment, respect opinions and solve problems in a peace and respectful environment is the right way.
It's the main value of respect the opinion from others, please people, you are enoughly mature to handle this.
Regards.
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Instead of going salty and trying to put me down for semanthics, you might as well give the topic a read and realize the very irony of your posts. That's about as much as I have to say here.
Right, I'd also like to point out that the purpose of the topic isn't ''fuck you'', the point is we can all be better, and more knowledgeable. And of course, more honest. I feel sorry that some of you misunderstood it, but I can't say it's not a scenario I didn't expect.
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Right, I'd also like to point out that the purpose of the topic isn't ''fuck you'', the point is we can all be better, and more knowledgeable. And of course, more honest. I feel sorry that some of you misunderstood it, but I can't say it's not a scenario I didn't expect.
If your purpose is to make the community better, you shouldnt start a boycott instead give suggestion for improvement. I hope you know what your were talking about and what's your own purpose. Btw, please read what Azulej, Crack and me said above. Especially:
I respect your views guys, EC is not perfect, and I accept your comments because that make us better day by day.
while for those with 3rd party tools that gives advantages are just waiting for a ban, but as admins cant take action without evidence or a clear rules..we might have to open a discussion about it first and without proof, we cant do anything yet. There are few players that are being watched by admins, admins are just collecting evidences to ban them & it is not as easy as pointing at people's mistake and complaining. There are alot of glitch in 0.4 and the problem with FPS, ping..etc, so it's not easy to get a clear evidence. The admins might even end up banning wrong player, that's why it takes time to handle reports related to 3rd party tools and that's one of the reason we have unban appeal board
But it dont work that way, players tend to report admin( which would get denied if the admin didnt abuse his power ) or open a topic to insults whole staff which leads to worst problem( especially after more players get in with offensive replies and cause dramas, it's part of vcmp ) but we will end up with no solution. We do be grateful if the players could show up in a mature attitude, understand that we cant take action without evidence & mistakes might happen during the administration. Some players might get up to 5 reports against him, but if the evidence is not clear, nothing we can do about that. The admins might also do mistake during reports solving as they handle alot of reports everyday, in server & forum even the chance of mistake is low. That is one of the reason we have 'Ban Appeals' board, it's also used to post about wrong bans & defense yourself.
Off-topic replies removed.
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Consider that VU will never be able to construct a server gamemode like EC's,and nor will gain any of such administrations like EC's.
For first time, I can say I respect Human.He's a professional developer among Aaron and others in past.
So, so should you say.Instead of "community-respect" (bleah) the best server in VC-MP history of 0.4 , you boycot it?
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Consider that VU will never be able to construct a server gamemode like EC's,and nor will gain any of such administrations like EC's.
For first time, I can say I respect Human.He's a professional developer among Aaron and others in past.
So, so should you say.Instead of "community-respect" (bleah) the best server in VC-MP history of 0.4 , you boycot it?
I won't be harsh on you here since at the time it was released, you probably didn't know how to read given your age. But yeah, we kinda already made a bunch of those
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Consider that VU will never be able to construct a server gamemode like EC's,and nor will gain any of such administrations like EC's.
For first time, I can say I respect Human.He's a professional developer among Aaron and others in past.
So, so should you say.Instead of "community-respect" (bleah) the best server in VC-MP history of 0.4 , you boycot it?
I won't be harsh on you here since at the time it was released, you probably didn't know how to read given your age. But yeah, we kinda already made a bunch of those
I doubt so.
Back when it started (the reboot) ,EC had VU members' admins.Now we know the reason why I said what I said about EC staff,true?
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Consider that VU will never be able to construct a server gamemode like EC's,and nor will gain any of such administrations like EC's.
For first time, I can say I respect Human.He's a professional developer among Aaron and others in past.
So, so should you say.Instead of "community-respect" (bleah) the best server in VC-MP history of 0.4 , you boycot it?
I won't be harsh on you here since at the time it was released, you probably didn't know how to read given your age. But yeah, we kinda already made a bunch of those
I doubt so.
Back when it started (the reboot) ,EC had VU members' admins.Now we know the reason why I said what I said about EC staff,true?
Umm, ever heard of XE?
Yes, because you hate VU. How is this relevant?
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http://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=7901.msg93971#new
Poor Ferrari, judging EC staff and couldn't differenciate that the ban periods for speed adjustments and glitch are different.
Well who cares about your long ass paragraph. These comments full of hatred will lead you nowhere, you're just degrading yourself in front of everyone. But yes i can assure you, SOME of your clan mates and close friends will support you in everything even if you're wrong. :)
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...alleged speed adjustments, since the evidence hasn't been released to the public. Lol.
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...alleged speed adjustments, since the evidence hasn't been released to the public. Lol.
Someone is so anxious to see the evidence.
@Brian when you come up online, change the video's privacy.
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...alleged speed adjustments, since the evidence hasn't been released to the public. Lol.
Someone is so anxious to see the evidence.
@Brian when you come up online, change the video's privacy.
Wow, that passive-aggressiveness.
Would like to also see the posts made at the European City Round Table Conference so everyone in the community can dispute, or perhaps - agree - over the statements made about certain timeframes of the video. Or did you just take the entire video and agree on it, without even analyzing it? And since you think of yourself as infallible and fair, there should be no problem with this, as you're giving the banned player a chance to defend himself?
Naturally.. the authors of the posts wouldn't be named.
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http://viceunderdogs.com/index.php?topic=7901.msg93971#new
Well who cares about your long ass paragraph
Well, at least one of your clanmates does and apparently agrees with it? ;)
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I'm not sure I'm the one spreading hate talk
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I'm personally starting a campaign to boycot EC
Umm, ever heard of XE?
Gl with it.
Well, since VU won't play EC what the reason to keep them in the staff? Just saying.
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Would like to also see the posts made at the European City Round Table Conference so everyone in the community can dispute, or perhaps - agree - over the statements made about certain timeframes of the video. Or did you just take the entire video and agree on it, without even analyzing it?
Oh c'mon, calm down krystianoo. You are asking questions and answering them yourself? No idea why are you getting so psychic, just be patient.
Evidence will be shown along with the staff's discussion.
Well, at least one of your clanmates does and apparently agrees with it? ;)
In your opinion all the clan members of a clan have same thoughts but that's not true. I'm not responsible for my clan mate's views.
Nobody bothers to report IF we give a half group of players less ban period and half group of players more. Even though we don't.
It's a whole different situation when you sit in front of your PC 24/7 noticing the people you hate that what they're doing wrong. I don't have time for it simply.
To me debating with you is the most pointless thing because i know this thing will last forever without any solution.
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Would like to also see the posts made at the European City Round Table Conference so everyone in the community can dispute, or perhaps - agree - over the statements made about certain timeframes of the video. Or did you just take the entire video and agree on it, without even analyzing it?
Oh c'mon, calm down krystianoo. You are asking questions and answering them yourself? No idea why are you getting so psychic, just be patient.
Evidence will be shown along with the staff's discussion.
EC sure had made a good decision by electing you a manager - a person unable to discuss resorts to insults. Allow me to act in a semi-similiar way too, then.
In your opinion all the clan members of a clan have same thoughts but that's not true. I'm not responsible for my clan mate's views.
Did I state that all clanmates have the same thoughts? No.
You said that nobody cares about "Ferrari's little speech" and I merely commented that people, including one of your clanmates, do.
Evidence will be shown along with the staff's discussion.
Cool.
You are asking questions and answering them yourself?
What..? Are you even aware of what I have written? Or are you so far up your a... that you don't remember how to read, or something? Lol.
Nobody bothers to report IF we give a half group of players less ban period and half group of players more. Even though we don't.
Again.. what? What are you trying to talk to me about?
My post was asking to show the evidence and a comment on your reply about Ferrari's post, and when answering my request you managed to insult me two times and threw in a bunch of sentences that make no sense whatsoever. I guess you're the 'psychic' one here, then?
These comments full of hatred
Also, as a bonus - it sure is nice accusing Ferrari of hate talk while having a passive-aggressive attitude towards me in the first post directed towards me, and then actually openly insulting me in another response. Haha.
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What..? Are you even aware of what I have written? Or are you so far up your a... that you don't remember how to read, or something? Lol.
Would like to also see the posts made at the European City Round Table Conference so everyone in the community can dispute, or perhaps - agree - over the statements made about certain timeframes of the video. Or did you just take the entire video and agree on it, without even analyzing it?
Don't know what are you upto. :)
EC sure had made a good decision by electing you a manager - a person unable to discuss resorts to insults. Allow me to act in a semi-similiar way too, then.
I don't know they made a good or bad decision by electing me as a manager but for sure someone made a great decision by banning you from their server for using 3rd party tools to edit game memory. That's your old habit to join a conversation, light up the fire and act so innocent.
I don't feel the need of answering your worthless statements anymore. Have a splendid day!
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I do feel the need to say you're the best person I've ever fought verbally against, because you sort of self-pwn yourself by quoting my reply that says 'a person unable to discuss resorts to insults', after which you proceed to insult me yet again and look for holes in my replies. (and yes, I self-pwnd myself by posting a video too, in case you want to say this next time)
but for sure someone made a great decision by banning you from their server for using 3rd party tools to edit game memory.
And again, it is indeed horribly funny that you call me out for something that I've come clean for once accused of (as far as I remember), while having a clanmate who didn't, yet got banned for the same thing. Of course, I agree with that decision, otherwise I would appeal it and cry on private messages to the banning person in question, like well.. you know who does ;)
I don't feel the need of answering your worthless statements anymore. Have a splendid day!
It's also funny you accuse Ferrari of running away from problems instead of trying to fix them, while you do the same by escaping from this argument by finishing by saying my statements are worthless. I think that perhaps you should look in the mirror - my statements, arguments didn't consist of insults in the most part, unlike yours do.. Have a splendid day, too.
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Consider that VU will never be able to construct a server gamemode like EC's,and nor will gain any of such administrations like EC's.
For first time, I can say I respect Human.He's a professional developer among Aaron and others in past.
So, so should you say.Instead of "community-respect" (bleah) the best server in VC-MP history of 0.4 , you boycot it?
I won't be harsh on you here since at the time it was released, you probably didn't know how to read given your age. But yeah, we kinda already made a bunch of those
I doubt so.
Back when it started (the reboot) ,EC had VU members' admins.Now we know the reason why I said what I said about EC staff,true?
Umm, ever heard of XE?
Yes, because you hate VU. How is this relevant?
VU hates me*
How could I hate VU for owning them ? limphao
The only thing I have with VU is their most common thing in clan - lack of intelligence (posting such retarded topics like this one) and such retarded behavior for 5/6 members
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And u lack of maturity so stfu
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Well hello.
Both my topic and your opinion/comment don't worth shit krys, Howl said it so it must be true.
And we're both so stupid to resort to insults and run away from problems, unlike the vcmp iteration of God named Shenn
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Once again, it turns into unnecessary fights.
May i know what is the point of this topic now ? I guess i've replied to all the statements posted by you. If i missed something please post it again in an easy way for us to see, such as in numbers and lets discuss about it one by one instead pushing more & more useless posts.
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1. Insulting replies removed, keep it clean.
2. For those who dont even mind to read all the messages here and just come to insult, you are not welcomed in this discussion.
Off-topic and insulting replies removed, you may use 'report to moderator' if i missed them.
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I registered here to post
Goodluck EC
2/50
MDs are also thinking to Leave this EC. once we get Exams over inshallah no more EC then.
if there will be no #MDVU in EC #WKHacks be like #WhatToDo #WhatToDo ...
I am posting insulting reply because that shit MK crackM4 banned me from forums for 10 days may be for just 2 reply at my Clanmate s topic and hunting is being involved in every fucking topic acting like an Admin and just warn again and again... How much fucking warns #KeepAssLicking they wont give u hacks.
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If you meant the replies in the board 'Server Reports', please read: http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=9.0
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If you meant the replies in the board 'Server Reports', please read: http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=9.0
Keep showing us those formats nothing more you guys can do... i bet you one day u will be showing those to ur empty forum + server.
thank you
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I am posting insulting reply because that shit MK crackM4 banned me from forums for 10 days may be for just 2 reply at my Clanmate s topic and hunting is being involved in every fucking topic acting like an Admin and just warn again and again... How much fucking warns #KeepAssLicking they wont give u hacks.
If you meant the replies in the board 'Server Reports', please read: http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=9.0
Keep showing us those formats nothing more you guys can do... i bet you one day u will be showing those to ur empty forum + server.
thank you
If you read the content of the topic beside the format, you will realize the reason you got warned/banned.
You may only post in a report thread if:
1. You are a server administrator.
2. You are the original poster of the report.
3. You are the target or one of the targets in the report.
4. You are one of the listed witnesses that can confirm events occurred or have additional evidence to add.
5. You have additional information that is proved correct & believed can help with solving the report.
To clarify, DO NOT POST if you just want to share your opinion or personal thoughts, it is not needed and you will be warned and later banned if you continue posting irrelevant replies.
It was because you didnt post anything useful and you didnt even try to help the report with additional information, but you still want to interrupt in the reports that's not related to you. Examples:
http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=3372.msg18486#msg18486
http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=3454.msg18893#msg18893
You could see that you didnt get warned in this topic, because you tried to post some information that's related to the report instead of useless talks as you normally do. You wont get warned if you try to help in the reports like you did in here:
http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=3435.msg18805#msg18805
http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=3432.msg18831#msg18831
Hunting didnt get warned in most of his replies in Report Board because his replies were mostly related to the report/additional information for the report.
I'm not in anyone side, i dont play VCMP & scripting is just giving more work for me, i get nothing from this. I just talk according the rules we have & i believe the admins are doing the same, but mistakes might happen & it can be fixed. I've answered quite many questions, i hope you will give it a look and think again before saying that admins are protecting someone..etc. The off-topic replies removed, please stay on the topic & use PM for personal problems/talks.
As i've cleared MAD_K!LL3R's missunderstand, lets get back to this post if you have anymore questions/difficulties:
http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=3692.msg20602#msg20602
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Once again, it turns into unnecessary fights.
May i know what is the point of this topic now ?
2. For those who dont even mind to read all the messages here and just come to insult, you are not welcomed in this discussion.
Off-topic and insulting replies removed, you may use 'report to moderator' if i missed them.
Yes, I simply requested to see the evidence and the staff discussion (which was 'accepted) so players can judge the report on their own. Unfortunately, someone (::)) saw this as a personal attack and started a fight,
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So Hunting's posts on reports related to his clanmates are allowed, which means any MD / SS / VU / XX can post in a report related to his clanmate with opinion / explanation?
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Yes, I simply requested to see the evidence and the staff discussion (which was 'accepted) so players can judge the report on their own. Unfortunately, someone (::)) saw this as a personal attack and started a fight,
I guess the evidence was already posted to public. However, the staff discussion topic shouldnt be made public as the admins also included a few suspected players nick & there was a discussion about speed gear. I believe it's a sensitive topic for players to see & we still need it.
So Hunting's posts on reports related to his clanmates are allowed, which means any MD / SS / VU / XX can post in a report related to his clanmate with opinion / explanation?
According what stated in the topic, You may post if: You have additional information that is proved correct & believed can help with solving the report, so no matter it's your clanmates or clanless players. But if you just want to post off-topic, insults or any kind of useless replies that interrupt the report..you may end up with a warn/ban like MAD_K!LL3R faced.
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As I've stated in my previous posts, I only wish for the actual video to be made public, and for the discussion of the staff about the video. How you analyzed it, and such - nothing else. If it's not a problem.
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As I've stated in my previous posts, I only wish for the actual video to be made public, and for the discussion of the staff about the video. How you analyzed it, and such - nothing else. If it's not a problem.
As i said in my previous post, the discussion about the video couldnt be made public due to the sensitive contents in the topic such as other players nick and comparison between players( lag, speed..etc ). The video which was already posted to public, before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuwYx86jOv4
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..only it was private, hence my requests to make it public. Too bad you can't make the discussions public, but I guess everyone can take it from here.
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..only it was private, hence my requests to make it public. Too bad you can't make the discussions public, but I guess everyone can take it from here.
He posted the video.
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As expected, MAD_K!LL3R cant accept his mistake even after i've cleared it & he will continue with his immature post/more rule break as he has no more complain that he can make. Once again, most of the post after me turns into off-topic...just great. If no one has more complain to make that's related to this server( not other servers ), i will just lock this topic.
@MAD_K!LL3R
What's the point of posting other servers' screenshots ? To blame us when we take action against you for breaking forum rules once again ? I just out of idea how do these people think..
Off-topic replies removed.
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Lock it Please.
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Any wrong ban on you can be posted in the Ban Appeals board( as stated in its description ) with explanation/information or simply re-produce the same situation as shown in evidence to prove that it was glitch & not usage of 3rd party program.
Off-topic replies removed, i will leave this topic opened for 24 hours & if no valid complaints/questions posted, it will be locked.
PS: The replies from players have nothing to do with us, no matter they are old players or new players. I've seen it alot that when other players post insults or offensive replies..we get targeted like we are the one who posted the messages. So, please learn to differ it and think twice before posting.
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General Discussion
You can talk about anything and everything related to the server here.
Too much gendral discussion, if we can't talk here than what else is the place to talk about this server ?
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Any wrong ban on you can be posted in the Ban Appeals board( as stated in its description ) with explanation/information or simply re-produce the same situation as shown in evidence to prove that it was glitch & not usage of 3rd party program.
Off-topic replies removed, i will leave this topic opened for 24 hours & if no valid complaints/questions posted, it will be locked.
PS: The replies from players have nothing to do with us, no matter they are old players or new players. I've seen it alot that when other players post insults or offensive replies..we get targeted like we are the one who posted the messages. So, please learn to differ it and think twice before posting.
Skill is the thing make player different
How about send evidence to you and you dont share anyone ? That better ?
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General Discussion
You can talk about anything and everything related to the server here.
Too much gendral discussion, if we can't talk here than what else is the place to talk about this server ?
You're free to talk about the server here.
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General Discussion
You can talk about anything and everything related to the server here.
Too much gendral discussion, if we can't talk here than what else is the place to talk about this server ?
Yes, you are free to start discussion about this server here, in this board. But it doesnt mean all kind of posts( including off-topic posts ) should be in one specific topic only, otherwise this board will turn into Chat Room. As for this topic, it's about players missunderstand/difficulties/complaints. What i did was just to answer them & keep the topic clean from unnecessary & off-topic posts that intterupt the topic. I dont see any problem with it, you can post about your difficulties/complaints and get the answer without seeing 10 or more off-topics replies. Then, you can simply ask again if the answer is not enough. So, if you really want the answer instead of dramas, i guess what i did was right.
Skill is the thing make player different
How about send evidence to you and you dont share anyone ? That better ?
If you were wrongly banned, you can post about it in the 'Ban Appeals' board as i said below:
Any wrong ban on you can be posted in the Ban Appeals board( as stated in its description ) with explanation/information or simply re-produce the same situation as shown in evidence to prove that it was glitch & not usage of 3rd party program.
to prove that you were wrongly banned.
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As you say with soo much confidence that if you get a wrong ban than you should post a ban appeals l, but however you don't get the point that it goes in your ban history and your reputation will be ruined even by a false ban. You know that very well.
Let me put it this way
I get a false ban for 30 days and 10 days havebeen passed already, on the 11th day I prove that it was misunderstanding, now I have a 10 days ban record at ec.
Nobody will remember that it was a false ban but everyone will remember that it was a ban.
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You can tell them that it was a wrong ban & provide the topic link as proof. If you expect a 100% perfect admins in a game with hacks, glitch/bugs and additional problem such as FPS, lag..etc, it's not something easy( or simply impossible ) to achieve. I have personally never seen a perfect human in VCMP, any online games nor real life, but who am i to judge..
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For some reasons, this topic got more replies so far than any other topic.
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One of the biggest problems here, is not the administration per se, but rather the fact that they don't appear to have very much confidence. Evidence? Well, there was a player who was reported for SG, the report was denied, but after the report-maker has created a report saying "for experienced admins only", said a few things against the admin that has handled the previous report - suddenly the report was accepted. I don't know if the report was valid or not, but that situation proves my point - and there were more situations like this, and I'm not going to spend my time trying to find those links.
So I and probably some other people assume that the discussion against Siezer was simply 10 pages, perhaps less, perhaps more of one person saying 'he uses it dumbass see this fragment xx:xx' even though the fragment was not suspicious' - and in such a case, it's simply hard to argue in favour of Siezer without seeing what the prosecution has to offer in the first place.
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Any wrong ban on you can be posted in the Ban Appeals board( as stated in its description ) with explanation/information or simply re-produce the
What you want more one of My MD member is confesing his mistake and being sorry in fucking ban appeals and crack being retarted ass denieding his app with no fucking reason...#GoTeachYourAdministration.
http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=3743.0
http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=3613.0
http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=3558.0
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Your reading comprehension is that of a monkey.
Any wrong ban on you can be posted in the Ban Appeals board( as stated in its description ) with explanation/information or simply re-produce the same situation as shown in evidence to prove that it was glitch & not usage of 3rd party program.
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Only VU is allowed to judge cheaters of thier clan (as was in d.e.v.i.l.'s c.a.s.e) because there is "vc-mp community" is VU and their friends only and nobody else. Admin of EC is scared to lock this topic because it's full of clear arguments from this respected, reputated and legendary gentlemen. Also any MD member who is confessing his "mistake" should be unbanned immediately because 1=1 and nice .gif in signature 720*392.
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Only VU is allowed to judge cheaters of thier clan (as was in d.e.v.i.l.'s c.a.s.e) because there is "vc-mp community" is VU and their friends only and nobody else. Admin of EC is scared to lock this topic because it's full of clear arguments from this respected, reputated and legendary gentlemen. Also any MD member who is confessing his "mistake" should be unbanned immediately because 1=1 and nice .gif in signature 720*392.
VU or actually, any clan - can take whatever decision they want when it's about things inside their clan.
VU, or actually, any clan, any person - can protest about decisions made on EC, or any other server which is what is happening in this thread; and while EC staff does not need to respond to this, they are, because a lack of response would be rather damaging.
Nobody has stated that me or anyone else from the 'respected, reputated and legendary gentlemen' (as you said) circle is infallible, I merely argue in here, point out things that I, personally, see as wrong, and I ask for a bunch of things related to the Siezer ban - which is what this topic was, and I guess still is about. Of course, my requests can be ignored / demands not met - I don't see that as a huge problem.
The key is to make evidence along with proper discussions about the video publicly available so people can make up their own mind regarding this situation.
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Okay, I vote for this topic to be locked.
I clearly don't wanna hear anything the community wants to say.
Just play the game,get raped and gtfo simply as that.
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Okay, I vote for this topic to be locked.
I clearly don't wanna hear anything the community wants to say.
Just play the game,get raped and gtfo simply as that.
close your damn fucking eyes and ears kid and gtfo from this conversation, go play after your ban expires
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Okay, I vote for this topic to be locked.
I clearly don't wanna hear anything the community wants to say.
Just play the game,get raped and gtfo simply as that.
close your damn fucking eyes and ears kid and gtfo from this conversation, go play after your ban expires
lol
you gtfo, you suck even with the rank of A/D moderator and your shitty y-axis and f1 hacks lmfao
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The video is private / dead again. I'm wondering what are the reasons for this?
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The video is private / dead again. I'm wondering what are the reasons for this?
If after a whole single day you're still complaining about not watching it than that's your problem.
The reason why it's set to private is to prevent further reputation damage across VCMP.
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One of the biggest problems here, is not the administration per se, but rather the fact that they don't appear to have very much confidence. Evidence? Well, there was a player who was reported for SG, the report was denied, but after the report-maker has created a report saying "for experienced admins only", said a few things against the admin that has handled the previous report - suddenly the report was accepted. I don't know if the report was valid or not, but that situation proves my point - and there were more situations like this, and I'm not going to spend my time trying to find those links.
So I and probably some other people assume that the discussion against Siezer was simply 10 pages, perhaps less, perhaps more of one person saying 'he uses it dumbass see this fragment xx:xx' even though the fragment was not suspicious' - and in such a case, it's simply hard to argue in favour of Siezer without seeing what the prosecution has to offer in the first place.
I know which report you're talking about, the first time it was denied because we thought that was lag/warp, after that we tested these shits and came with another view.
Any wrong ban on you can be posted in the Ban Appeals board( as stated in its description ) with explanation/information or simply re-produce the
What you want more one of My MD member is confesing his mistake and being sorry in fucking ban appeals and crack being retarted ass denieding his app with no fucking reason...#GoTeachYourAdministration.
http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=3743.0
http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=3613.0
http://ec.vc-mp.co.uk/index.php?topic=3558.0
I'm not sure who's the "retarded ass" here... The things doesn't work like that, If he broke rules, he should be punished... so I'm a bad administrator for punishing him to learn from his mistakes?
#GoTeachYourMemberToPlayFair
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Doing things like that won't hurt me.
Immature guy, graphic description.
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The video is private / dead again. I'm wondering what are the reasons for this?
If after a whole single day you're still complaining about not watching it than that's your problem.
The reason why it's set to private is to prevent further reputation damage across VCMP.
Your reputation.. or whose? The banned player, community would probably like to see the video yet you can't even publish the video? Just make it public so I, or anyone else can actually see it. Then make it private after a day (or maybe less) and I won't complain. promis
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The video is private / dead again. I'm wondering what are the reasons for this?
If after a whole single day you're still complaining about not watching it than that's your problem.
The reason why it's set to private is to prevent further reputation damage across VCMP.
Your reputation.. or whose? The banned player, community would probably like to see the video yet you can't even publish the video? Just make it public so I, or anyone else can actually see it. Then make it private after a day (or maybe less) and I won't complain. promis
I made it public and kept it public for several days several times.
Your problem for ignoring it.
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Guess we'll have to wait for Human to make a decision, then.
And a question for him, in case he considers denying making the video public: how would you feel when you got banned but weren't provided with the evidence long-term? I'd feel fucked over, TBH.
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Seizer has been provided with it, has seen it and even made a statement himself on the actual admin report.
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Seizer has been provided with it, has seen it and even made a statement himself on the actual admin report.
Hence my words in the previous reply: long-term. If you put yourself in Siezer's position, who claims to not have hacked, wouldn't you analyze the video for a long time just to prove yourself innocent? I mean, I guess I would.
And since you took this route of argumentation, then I guess it's best if Siezer himself decides whether he wants to see the video again, or not.
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The banned player, community would probably like to see the video yet you can't even publish the video?
And a question for him, in case he considers denying making the video public: how would you feel when you got banned but weren't provided with the evidence long-term?
It's fine to each server to regulate itself as it want, ban anybody as it want and keeping in secret anti-cheat methods. Actually it's one of most stupid things in vc-mp to show to cheaters how and when they are detected to teach them how to use hacks hidden. Community values as it. Reputation, respect and other animal stuff :)
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The banned player, community would probably like to see the video yet you can't even publish the video?
And a question for him, in case he considers denying making the video public: how would you feel when you got banned but weren't provided with the evidence long-term?
It's fine to each server to regulate itself as it want, ban anybody as it want and keeping in secret anti-cheat methods. Actually it's one of most stupid things in vc-mp to show to cheaters how and when they are detected to teach them how to use hacks hidden. Community values as it. Reputation, respect and other animal stuff :)
1. Publishing the video would not compromise any anti cheat detection methods.
2. Obviously, EC can do whatever they please - I don't take away that right, it's rather about being fair. I'm pretty sure that always when a player was banned for something, evidence was shown to him.
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Publishing the video would not compromise any anti cheat detection methods.
Maybe that video was recorded by some "secret agent" in VU, as [ON/SS/VU]Gohana was, you know the story.
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General Discussion
You can talk about anything and everything related to the server here.
Too much gendral discussion, if we can't talk here than what else is the place to talk about this server ?
Yes, you are free to start discussion about this server here, in this board. But it doesnt mean all kind of posts( including off-topic posts ) should be in one specific topic only, otherwise this board will turn into Chat Room. As for this topic, it's about players missunderstand/difficulties/complaints. What i did was just to answer them & keep the topic clean from unnecessary & off-topic posts that intterupt the topic. I dont see any problem with it, you can post about your difficulties/complaints and get the answer without seeing 10 or more off-topics replies. Then, you can simply ask again if the answer is not enough. So, if you really want the answer instead of dramas, i guess what i did was right.
Skill is the thing make player different
How about send evidence to you and you dont share anyone ? That better ?
If you were wrongly banned, you can post about it in the 'Ban Appeals' board as i said below:
Any wrong ban on you can be posted in the Ban Appeals board( as stated in its description ) with explanation/information or simply re-produce the same situation as shown in evidence to prove that it was glitch & not usage of 3rd party program.
to prove that you were wrongly banned.
Even he dont use hack, he still cant just post evindence in Ban Appeal and say'' This is my skill and this look like this or bla bla bla '' Just like i said: Maybe that skill make me different and he dont want anyone know it, if u r skill player and some admins banned you and said u use Speed Gear, do u want to post in Ban Appeal's ?
and dont remove my reply again :)
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The evidence was already shown to Siezer and he already watched the video in his 'admin report' topic, he even acknowledged that his speed was fast( but he said it's due to slide/glitch/lag ). He just replied once in this topic, no explanation in Ban Appeal & his last active was 17 March which shows he is not interested to further the discussion nor prove that it was not hack. Seems like only krystianoo left interested to further the discussion about Siezer. While MAD_K!LL3R is still blaming staff instead of accepting mistakes. His clan member used hack, so as the clan leader he should apologizes to the community, but instead he blamed staff because his clan member didnt get unbanned. I respect Swagger for admitting his mistake, it's not easy work to do but using hack is not a small rule break. However, it's a good move & it might help him.
About publishing the video, it was made public for quite enough time for anyone to watch/download it unless he doesnt really want or mind to watch it. But as someone wanted to watch the video( again ), i request the video to be made public again.
Even he dont use hack, he still cant just post evindence in Ban Appeal and say'' This is my skill and this look like this or bla bla bla '' Just like i said: Maybe that skill make me different and he dont want anyone know it, if u r skill player and some admins banned you and said u use Speed Gear, do u want to post in Ban Appeal's ?
Why would he want to hide something that doesnt give unfair advatantage or illegal which is against the server rules ? He can simply prove that he was not using speed gear by re-produce the same thing and show it to admin. I removed your last replies because it was not even a question, you just said that your friend didnt use speed gear & something related to vietnam, skill..etc which is off-topic. However, i've already included this message to tell you/everyone that wrong ban can be posted in Ban Appeal board.
Any wrong ban on you can be posted in the Ban Appeals board( as stated in its description ) with explanation/information or simply re-produce the same situation as shown in evidence to prove that it was glitch & not usage of 3rd party program.
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The evidence was already shown to Siezer and he already watched the video in his 'admin report' topic, he even acknowledged that his speed was fast( but he said it's due to slide/glitch/lag ). He just replied once in this topic, no explanation in Ban Appeal & his last active was 17 March which shows he is not interested to further the discussion nor prove that it was not hack. Seems like only krystianoo left interested to further the discussion about Siezer. While MAD_K!LL3R is still trying hard to show how bad he is in accepting mistakes and still trying to blame admin for taking action according the rules.
About publishing the video, it was made public for quite enough time for anyone to watch/download it unless he doesnt really want or mind to watch it. But as someone requested to watch the video, i request the video to be made public again.
Even he dont use hack, he still cant just post evindence in Ban Appeal and say'' This is my skill and this look like this or bla bla bla '' Just like i said: Maybe that skill make me different and he dont want anyone know it, if u r skill player and some admins banned you and said u use Speed Gear, do u want to post in Ban Appeal's ?
Why would he want to hide something that doesnt give unfair advatantage or illegal which is against the server rules ? He can simply prove that he was not using speed gear by re-produce the same thing and show it to admin. I removed your last replies because it was not even a question, you just said that your friend didnt use speed gear & something related to vietnam, skill..etc which is off-topic. However, i've already included this message to tell you/everyone that wrong ban can be posted in Ban Appeal board.
Any wrong ban on you can be posted in the Ban Appeals board( as stated in its description ) with explanation/information or simply re-produce the same situation as shown in evidence to prove that it was glitch & not usage of 3rd party program.
Okay if u say that, i will call my friend and repeat that skill, if that not hack, what's next ?
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Okay if u say that, i will call my friend and repeat that skill, if that not hack, what's next ?
You still havent told us your friend's full nick, so i guess he's still banned for speed gear. But if he can prove that it was not hack and it's not something against the server rules, he should be unbanned by the admin.
I guess all the replies from me are enough to answer most questions, so please take a look of the whole topics. As for krystianoo, you can watch the video after it's set to public and about Siezer,
He just replied once in this topic, no explanation in Ban Appeal & his last active was 17 March which shows he is not interested to further the discussion nor prove that it was not hack.
However,
Any wrong ban on you can be posted in the Ban Appeals board( as stated in its description ) with explanation/information or simply re-produce the same situation as shown in evidence to prove that it was glitch & not usage of 3rd party program.
I'll lock this topic now, you can request me to unlock this through PM if you have any good reason. But from what i see, i just keep answering the questions that i've already answered in my previous post or already proved by forum/boards/server rules, just see how many quotes i've used & please take a look at the rules. So, i guess there's no more complain to be made, but if you have any, feel free to PM me or request for topic unlock as i said above.